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Light & Shadow #3
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Light & Shadow #3

by Brian Schrayer

Gallery: LandscapePosted February 25, 20173,288 views11 comments
Here is another image from the Grand Canyon.  I decided to process this in B&W since there wasn't any remaining color in the clouds. This is looking toward the west about 30-45 minutes after sunrise.  The sun was lighting the landscape through a gap in the clouds on the eastern horizon. 

As always all comments and critiques are welcome.  crying  Thank you for commenting on my previous posts.  Sorry I haven't been as active recently - work has been busy the last few weeks.

Capture Info:
35mm
1/30 sec @ f16

Processing Info:
B&W conversion in Photoshop, levels adjustment to set black and white points; TK's luminosity masks and luminosity painting technique.
 

Comments

11 comments
Comment posted by Harry Lichtman on February 25, 2017 at 9:36 PM
You caught some great textural lighting here, and I like the BW conversion.  In this case, it seems that the focus should be in the illuminated fins section of the image, and the right lower corner canyon just cant match up.  I would tighten up the comp - or maybe you have another version you took.  I would crop off the right side to the vertical canyon, off the bottom to below the lower lit rock on the left, maybe some off the top of the sky.  In this way you would still have some of the canyon snaking through the bottom with the large shadow portions eliminated.  There is also a extremely bright canyon wall just right of center that i might darken a tad.  Look forward to seeing more, as I'm processing many similar views at this time.
Registered on September 17, 2010, 304 Posts, 3507 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Seaver on February 26, 2017 at 9:50 AM
This looks very good in B&W, Brian.  The mix of bright tops and dark depths works well with the clouds adding nicely to the scene.  The script "v" of the river makes a fine compositional element.  I agree with Harry that the bright fin coming in from the right edge is a distraction, which has me thinking that cropping off the right edge to an 8.5 x 11 shape would work well.  I also wonder about processing for some extra contrast in the distant valleys.
Registered on January 23, 2011, 1103 Posts, 17270 Comments
Comment posted by Doug Koepsel on February 26, 2017 at 10:27 AM
Brian, considering the light and color, B&W is a good decision.  Possible suggestions may be to crop off the intruding lit point near the bottom right, and increasing the contrast of both land and sky.
Registered on April 1, 2010, 196 Posts, 1592 Comments
Comment posted by scott lanz on February 26, 2017 at 10:49 AM
Very nice, Bryan. I like the well controlled light. Good suggestions have been made already. I agree about a slight boost in contrast in the canyon. 
Registered on November 14, 2003, 840 Posts, 12902 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Bristol on February 26, 2017 at 12:43 PM
Brian, This really is an impressive view! I have looked at it for awhile and I agree with all of Harry's thoughts (suggestions) on it. I also agree a bit more contrast could be good as well. It is a great scene and a bit more time on it could make it even better I think.

Nick Bristol
Lone Rock, WI.
Registered on February 1, 2004, 752 Posts, 14140 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on February 26, 2017 at 1:51 PM
Brain,

A grand view and capture for sure.  I can guess that the color version might have been a little non-descript, so going b&w was probably a good choice.  I do think though that this could use a boost, more contrast.  Perhaps it's the haze in the atmosphere that's dulling the contrast.  I like the brooding sky which makes me think that even the late/early light hitting the canyon walls might have been warm enough for color?  not sure though.

I also noticed the postage-sized sheer wall in the LR quadrant, but that's minor to the overall presentation.

Great potential here, but I think could use some pop, or something.

Lon
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Preston Birdwell on February 26, 2017 at 3:45 PM
I like your composition, Brian. I agree it could use a boost in contrast--perhaps in the mid-tones. The lights and darks look good. This does have a nice depth, and B&W was a good choice.
--P
Registered on November 1, 2003, 471 Posts, 5188 Comments
Comment posted by Dave Dillemuth on February 26, 2017 at 9:24 PM
Beautiful and dramatic overlook. I would agree with comments on raising the midtone contrast. I'd  also experiment with lighting the river course at the bottom of the canyon to add more depth.
Registered on December 10, 2015, 104 Posts, 1112 Comments
Comment posted by Genny K. on February 27, 2017 at 2:05 AM
Interesting reading everyone's comments on this; it is a learning experience for me as I've never photographed the Grand Canyon and don't do much with B&W.  I can imagine that you had some really dark shadows down in there given that it was shortly after sunrise, so you did a good job of bringing out detail in there.  It sure conveys a feeling of large expanse and depth. I like the directional light and the comp really well, but I am trying to figure out just where everyone is saying to crop it!!  I do agree with the suggestion about maybe cropping off a bit of sky, to help put the emphasis down on the canyon. I also think it needs some contrast, as it feels a bit hazy, but hey, I wasn't there.
Registered on June 5, 2006, 132 Posts, 2001 Comments
Comment posted by gary phillips on February 28, 2017 at 8:28 PM
What an incredible place, Brian.  Hard to go wrong anywhere along the canyon.  I agree that it looks a little flat and hazy.  The large view is much better, but could still use some tweaking.  I definitely would tone down the lit cliff face in the lower right center area as Harry suggested.  I never get tired of seeing images from here.
Registered on October 24, 2013, 185 Posts, 4136 Comments
Comment posted by John Williams on March 6, 2017 at 12:26 AM
Large view is magical Brian. I do see the point about the haze (you could use local contrast enhancement to clear that some), but it does provide a bit of a contrast to the sharper foreground. I like the crop idea too.
Registered on September 6, 2007, 221 Posts, 5985 Comments