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Phoenix Rising

by Ted Gore

Gallery: LandscapePosted October 11, 2013672 views24 comments
A nice morning at broken top mountain in central oregon. Loved the clouds that were spinning off the peaks. They were creating all sorts of interesting shapes, this one in particular resembled a bird, or maybe a dragon.

I placed my camera inches from the ground and that foreground flower to get this perspective using an elaborate structure of rocks supporting my tripod placed on it's side. Multiple photos for the foreground for focus blend.

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24 comments
Comment posted by Grant Collier on October 11, 2013 at 11:59 AM
Wicked cool clouds and great composition. I love this shot. My only minor nit is that the sky goes from rather dark at the top to quite light at the bottom above the mountains. I'm wondering if lightening the top part a bit and darkening the bottom to even it out more might help.
Registered on July 29, 2005, 73 Posts, 430 Comments
Comment posted by Navin Sarma on October 11, 2013 at 12:08 PM
Diffused/orton glow on the snow is pretty sick. Awesome processing Ted.
Registered on July 17, 2011, 233 Posts, 1373 Comments
Comment posted by Jared Warren on October 11, 2013 at 12:44 PM
Gorgeous, Ted. One of my favorites of your recent work. I concur with earlier comment about the sky transition, and add that the clouds are slightly too "crisp" for my taste. But, man, this is just fantastic work. :jump:
Registered on May 11, 2012, 84 Posts, 931 Comments
Comment posted by Shane McDermott on October 11, 2013 at 12:59 PM
Hi Ted

Overall this is a beauty! Wonderful light on the flowers and the mountain cloud combo really bring it to life. The middle ground falls a little flat for me though. Consider brightening it a little and it might not appear so muddy. But really the FG and BG are so dynamic they pull my eye through.

It was great to meet you and shoot together at Assiniboine. Did you get any images from our morning shoot?

Take care and feel free to connect if you ever want to go shooting in the SW.

Shane
Registered on November 12, 2007, 49 Posts, 1074 Comments
Comment posted by Marc Adamus on October 11, 2013 at 1:12 PM
Nice work putting this one together, Ted. My favorite shoot from our trip. My only critique is the overly dark and muddy (from over-ortonization, it would appear) middle-ground, which I'd expect to flow better if brightened up a but. Could also see bringing up the highlights in the flowers to get a little more 'pop'. Glad you got to meet Shane at Assiniboine. He's an amazing fellow.
Registered on September 17, 2005, 780 Posts, 8091 Comments
Comment posted by Peter Nievaart on October 11, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Great composition. The flowers look a bit dark on my screen. The snow nicely connects the flowers and the mountains. The shape of the clouds is amazing.
Registered on June 21, 2013, 8 Posts, 75 Comments
Comment posted by Ted Gore on October 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM
Thanks for the comments guys. This one's been through the ringer several times already... it's been a difficult image to dial in. The sky had an odd fall off that was intersected with that main diagonal cloud, so it created a really harsh transition from left to right in the gradation of the sky. I evened that out and then felt like doing a little bit of highlighting towards the bottom of the sky because after fixing the original gradation, it felt TOO even. I can try stretching it out a bit more.

Considering that two of my most well respected photographers suggest that the middle ground is too flat(it's funny you guys almost exactly the same comment), I guess that means I need to do something about it! :cool: Thanks for the suggestion. The only orton I applied was over the lake and the glacier. A little bit of it spilled over the right side of the lake. Maybe that's part of the problem. I'm not totally seeing how it is flat and muddy, and I kind of feel that brightening would make it feel more muddy? I'll give it a shot, but my other fear is losing the sense of it being in shadow. What are your guys thoughts?

Marc, this was a great area. Thanks for letting me take your raft for a spin! :wink:

And yes, Shane, it was a pleasure! That morning was excellent. I haven't looked into my files for that yet, but I'm positive it's going to be a great shot. Probably the best from my trip there, despite the cookie cutter comp. You'll definitely hear from me when I get the urge to visit the SW!
Registered on April 25, 2013, 36 Posts, 149 Comments
Comment posted by Ron Pullen on October 11, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Maybe just a tad more light on the Indian Paintbrush, but not bad at all! :toast: Ron
Registered on December 18, 2005, 74 Posts, 1413 Comments
Comment posted by Peter Coskun on October 11, 2013 at 4:45 PM
I like this a lot more now that it seems to be coming along. I still have a few suggestion/observations. I am still seeing an overly saturated red in the mountain. It seems to make it feel uneven to my eye, but having never been here, is it two different types of rock that reflect the light differently? It isn't as noticeable as before, but I can still see it. The other thing is the flowers. I really like the light on them now, but like most just a little more and it will be perfect. I might suggest maybe adding some pink/magenta/blue into the flowers so perhaps it might match the sky a bit more? Just a thought. Killer work though and I doubt I could do better here.
Registered on October 31, 2011, 170 Posts, 1240 Comments
Comment posted by Lucy VanSwearingen on October 11, 2013 at 4:52 PM
Just awesome! The FG flowers and the band of snow leading up to the grand finale makes this an outstanding composition :toast:
Registered on May 23, 2009, 800 Posts, 2042 Comments
Comment posted by Matt Anderson on October 11, 2013 at 8:13 PM
Open the mid section slight, my only change.
Sure is a beauty.
Registered on September 6, 2007, 346 Posts, 2696 Comments
Comment posted by Marc Adamus on October 11, 2013 at 8:25 PM
Dark to light transition. Just transitions, Ted....like I always say. If the mid-ground stays dark, it interrupts that. Shouldn't be too much work to experiment with that. And yes, I think any 'muddy' look is just Orton spill-over next to the lake.
Registered on September 17, 2005, 780 Posts, 8091 Comments
Comment posted by Stan Rose on October 11, 2013 at 9:19 PM
It could use some 'tweaks' (especially the dull dark sky section) as mentioned. Some real nice light here, and i love the clouds. The flowers-in-your-face-sunlit-peak-in-the-bg comp has always been a popular one here; beaten to death at times. I think it can work if used sparingly. Sometimes it comes off as forced. When you have two strong subjects they can compete and seperate, and that's the danger of this approach. In this case I think it might have worked better with a broader view of the flowers--I actually like this better with the close up stuff cropped out; it enables me to enjoy the scene as a whole more rather than think "why is my head pushed up against these paintbrushes?" Just a thought--your mileage may vary :wink:
Registered on September 15, 2005, 836 Posts, 17099 Comments
Comment posted by Dan Kearl on October 11, 2013 at 10:56 PM
If you screen stroll, it looks better with about half of the bottom flowers cropped off.
Broken Top and the sky look great.
Registered on September 2, 2013, 209 Posts, 1514 Comments
Comment posted by Nancy Lea Sandy on October 11, 2013 at 11:12 PM
Great light on the peaks and beautiful colors. The cloud formations really play with my imagination.
Registered on January 24, 2011, 576 Posts, 6942 Comments
Comment posted by John Williams on October 12, 2013 at 12:40 AM
Some good tweaks above, but I have to add that I love this one!!
Registered on September 6, 2007, 221 Posts, 5985 Comments
Comment posted by Ted Gore on October 12, 2013 at 3:19 AM
Ok, updates! Tried to address the things most were pointing out, namely getting the brightness levels in the sky more even. I still left some gradation because no sky is completely flat. Also gave it a slight shift to blue.

Also brightened up and cleaned up the mid ground. How's that feeling to you Marc and Shane?

Also, more pop on the flowers.

Registered on April 25, 2013, 36 Posts, 149 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Metternich on October 12, 2013 at 3:55 AM
I would think this was an Adamus if I did not see it was from you! Killer dude. :toast:
Registered on June 19, 2009, 276 Posts, 6240 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Reid on October 12, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Stunning image Ted. Great processing on this and wonderful sky and fore ground. The repost is just perfect. Really well done. :toast:
Registered on January 27, 2013, 65 Posts, 2460 Comments
Comment posted by Marc Adamus on October 12, 2013 at 11:08 AM
Mark, whatcha talking about? I had enough of these type scenes years ago :wink: I was there, but the camera stayed in my bag this morning. Sometimes I just like to watch it all.

The repost does feel better to my eye. Can't wait to see these Assiniboine pics! From what I've been seeing around it looks like the color was 2 weeks late this year and they got less snow than Glacier, which I bet must have made for an awesome combo.
Registered on September 17, 2005, 780 Posts, 8091 Comments
Comment posted by Morris McClung on October 12, 2013 at 12:20 PM
Go with Marc's suggestions and it's a grand finished image. Great light and scene. The clouds are the icing, too.
Registered on May 7, 2007, 670 Posts, 19650 Comments
Comment posted by Ted Gore on October 12, 2013 at 12:52 PM
Thanks Mark, I'll take that compliment! :cool: Marc has been a huge help and inspiration for me.

Marc, the conditions at assiniboine were perfect. Larches were at peak, and there was a fresh layer of snow on the ground when I got there. The three days prior to my arrival, the area had been mostly socked in, but opened up for the entire three days I was there. I want to get through my oregon pics before I get to those, so it might be a bit before I get around to them.

Morris, I made the changes Marc suggested, see my repost a few comments up.
Registered on April 25, 2013, 36 Posts, 149 Comments
Comment posted by Hamed Musharbak on October 12, 2013 at 1:11 PM
very nice Ted, i like the light & the mood in this shot

well done
Registered on June 1, 2009, 372 Posts, 2282 Comments
Comment posted by Stan Rose on October 13, 2013 at 12:06 AM
Mark, whatcha talking about? I had enough of these type scenes years ago


Hahahahaa! And thank God for that! :biggrin:
Registered on September 15, 2005, 836 Posts, 17099 Comments