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Postscript Light (Develop. Revealed)
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Postscript Light (Develop. Revealed)

by Youssef Ismail

Gallery: LandscapePosted August 18, 2010242 views20 comments
I would like some feed back on this photo. I would like to know what you think I used to make, Film or Digital. Is it a single exposure or a blend. HDR or not. Filtered or straight.

I have struggled with this image for some time. I have always liked it, but only recently developed to my satisfaction. Would like your input.

Comments

20 comments
Comment posted by Stan Rose on August 18, 2010 at 2:23 AM
Ha--i get to comment while there are still 0 views! :biggrin:
I have no idea what medium or process you used, all i care about is the result--which looks great to me. One of those shots i wish i could just be there to soak it all in. Dont see how it could be imprioved--everything looks about right to me! :smile:
Registered on September 15, 2005, 836 Posts, 17099 Comments
Comment posted by Kah Kit Yoong on August 18, 2010 at 3:34 AM
Really beautiful. The sand patterns echo the clouds nicely. Digital filtered.
Registered on September 27, 2006, 636 Posts, 10682 Comments
Comment posted by Jorne de Bruin on August 18, 2010 at 7:16 AM
No idea about the medium, but I do like! :wink: Great colours and nice comp, must have been an awesome scene to witness :wavey:
Registered on June 26, 2008, 178 Posts, 2136 Comments
Comment posted by Andreas Resch on August 18, 2010 at 7:58 AM
Wonderful - love the colors and the quality of light.
Registered on November 14, 2007, 322 Posts, 6101 Comments
Comment posted by Matt Anderson on August 18, 2010 at 7:59 AM
It's quite an amazing sky. Personally, it looks about 10% "over cooked". Back off just a smidge. (mostly the top 1/3 of the image)
Registered on September 6, 2007, 346 Posts, 2696 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Chambers on August 18, 2010 at 8:18 AM
Guessing game huh? I'll guess digital, single exposure, GNDo r either double processed.

All that aside, this looks great - love the ripples & shadows in the FG, and the sky is killer!
Registered on April 10, 2005, 753 Posts, 21216 Comments
Comment posted by Abdullaziz Bin Ali on August 18, 2010 at 9:17 AM
Ramadan Kareem

To face the sunset/ sunrise you obviously need to go for exposure blending (except some cases)
I do NOT know if it is a film or digital origin. However, I feel it has the film taste :wink:
anyway, I like this colorful scene :wavey:
Registered on May 31, 2009, 112 Posts, 1590 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Bristol on August 18, 2010 at 9:57 AM
Beautiful scene, no matter what or how you got it. Nice work! Like Stan, I would like to have been there to enjoy this for real.

Nick Bristol
Lone Rock, WI
Registered on February 1, 2004, 752 Posts, 14140 Comments
Comment posted by Joel Hazelton on August 18, 2010 at 11:02 AM
Juding by the amazing sky, I'm guessing it lit up the landscape pretty well for you, so no blending or filters were necessary (except maybe a polarizer). This is simple and absolutely sutnning :toast:
Registered on August 6, 2008, 194 Posts, 1315 Comments
Comment posted by Ron Richins on August 18, 2010 at 11:31 AM
The light and colors are just wonderful. The LRC feels a bit heavy and pulls my eye a bit. I'd say it's a blend. Also, if it's done on film, it's extremely well done. Nevertheless, this is very nice.
Registered on March 6, 2008, 113 Posts, 1009 Comments
Comment posted by Tony Kuyper on August 18, 2010 at 12:13 PM
Thought this was Bill Chambers when it first popped open. Great photographers think alike, I guess. Sorry for ignoring your questions. None of them would change my opinion of the image. Your struggle was very successful, IMO.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 364 Posts, 22328 Comments
Comment posted by John Williams on August 18, 2010 at 1:52 PM
I agree with the comments above; as long as you don't misrepresent how you get the image I'm much more interested in the result. If I had to guess I would suspect a digital blend unfiltered, but that's probably just because that's how I do it. :smile:
Registered on September 6, 2007, 221 Posts, 5985 Comments
Comment posted by Michael J Greene, on August 18, 2010 at 3:10 PM
Hi Youssef,

I absolutely love the composition, especially the reflected color and lines of the coastline. I didn't know that you shot digital, but if you do - I'd guess you used it for this image and either mulitple exposures, a grad, or multiple blends of the same exposure. Anyways, it all looks great. Actually one of your best IMO. I would consider slightly lightening the LLC. I hope this helps. Congrats :toast:

Michael
Registered on June 18, 2009, 86 Posts, 2317 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on August 18, 2010 at 4:52 PM
Youssef,

First and foremost, this is a beautiful seascape and sunset image. The comp is nicely balanced with a perfect amount of sky vs. land and sea; obviously showcasing the glorious sky.

As to your question, I will over-think this and try to second-guess your motivation.... I know you shoot both formats regularly and the format ratio is irrelevant because of something called cropping, so I can't make a judgment there. :wink: I would agree with the comment that the upper 1/3 seems slightly over-cooked or is suffering from jpg compression. Now one could just as easily cook a digital image as you could with a scanned film image, so no info there....

Digital is my guess and here's why: The shutter speed isn't all that long judging by the curl of the wave and the surf line; probably 1/8s or faster. Given the time of day and the light on the scene, I'm thinking a 4x5 image would have a much longer ss assuming you're using at least f/22 or smaller and say V50. Am I close? Also, a 4x5 ratio might have included more sky and I can't see you cropping any sky.... Digital!

But back to the image - the colors and exposure are wonderful, but something odd is going on with the clouds up top. Can't put my finger on it, but perhaps over sharpening?

Curious to see your Answer Youssef!

Lon
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Eva McDermott on August 19, 2010 at 12:14 AM
Gorgeous image Youssef! Beautiful color as well as detailed ripples in the sand. My guess it is digital, single exposure using a gradient ND filter. I am guessing this might be a trick question though....... Doesn't look like HDR if it is but what does that matter.......
Registered on January 4, 2009, 1015 Posts, 13229 Comments
Comment posted by Anil Rao on August 19, 2010 at 1:41 AM
Whenever I visit the coast I always marvel at the fact that I can witness the meeting of sky and ocean and also ocean and land. Seeing this picture allows me to relieve that experience. Fantastic work, Youssef.
Registered on November 15, 2003, 234 Posts, 4923 Comments
Comment posted by Youssef Ismail on August 19, 2010 at 5:08 PM
Some pretty interesting sleuthing on your parts.

But hopefully not all of your dismay, this photo was made with the 4x5. I used a 75 mm wide angle lens at an aperture of f32.3 and a shutter speed of 2 seconds with a 3 stop soft GND on Fuji Astia 100F. The photo was made back in 2004 in July after a tropical storm had moved through the area.

The sky really was that vivid. It was probably the most vivid sunset I had ever witnessed on the northern California coast. I might have given the sky a little to much TK Cloud Sharpening, and I might back that off just a bit.

Thanks so much for all the feedback so far.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 474 Posts, 5555 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Metternich on August 19, 2010 at 10:00 PM
I too don't care how you developed it, and don't like HDR (not that you used it here) because I find it 95-99% completely unnecessary, throwing much of the great (and necessary) quality benefits of the raw converter, and the artifacting shows up vividly on prints pushed to their largest sizes.

Having said that, this looks very nice. I agree with Matt, I would critically rate the image at about 10% off its best possible result using raw and advanced blending techniques or really good film scans. I don't believe it is 10% "over cooked" but 10% off its best possible result.
Registered on June 19, 2009, 276 Posts, 6240 Comments
Comment posted by Youssef Ismail on August 19, 2010 at 10:06 PM
Mark,

What else could it use to get the lat 10%?
Registered on November 1, 2003, 474 Posts, 5555 Comments
Comment posted by Ben Horne on August 21, 2010 at 12:47 AM
My first instinct was film based on the yellows in particular. That's an area where film gracefully holds detail, but digital blows out and goes white.

The sky is wonderful in this shot. I like how my eye is lead back and forth through the clouds all the way out to the horizon.
Registered on August 27, 2009, 51 Posts, 959 Comments