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Oak Tree of Light

by Robert Cubit

Gallery: LandscapePosted June 21, 2010529 views23 comments
Although I’m a long-time photographer and have been an NPN member for several years, this is my first post in the ES&S gallery.

This image was captured six weeks ago along Division Creek Road in Owens Valley California, near Lone Pine and the Alabama Hills (in the foothills of the Eastern Sierra Nevada Mountains). I timed my 3-day visit for a period when one of the last storm fronts of the season was passing through, hoping for some dramatic skies. Of course, Owens Valley isn’t exactly known for still wind conditions. And I realized that the passing weather front would likely make photographing these long-stemmed bush lupine a bit challenging! :biggrin: Fortunately, I had two days when there were brief lulls in the winds at sunset during which, with some patience, I could shoot. However, this shot was taken on the third day when the winds were a constant 15 mi/hr, with 30 mi/hr gusts all day. So I deliberately decreased the shutter speed hoping for a pleasing motion-blur effect on the foreground lupine.

I was several miles (and several thousand feet) up Division Creek Rd when I saw this sky developing. So I quickly drove back down to an area that I had scouted earlier with the lone oak in the BG and began frantically searching, like the manic photographer that I am, for a foreground to stick in front of it. I was able to capture 20 bracketed exposures, before the color was gone.

So my questions are, does the motion blur of the lupine enhance or detract from this image? I would also appreciate honest opinions on the overall effectiveness of the composition and processing?

Nikon D700, 12mm, 6-sec, f/16, ISO 200
2-exposures blended in Photoshop CS5

Bob

Comments

23 comments
Comment posted by Richard Wong on June 21, 2010 at 6:48 PM
Great scene Bob. I would work the exposures a bit more so you could get some real blacks into the shadow. The heavy HDR effect here is taking away from the drama IMO.
Registered on February 2, 2006, 79 Posts, 2629 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on June 21, 2010 at 7:02 PM
Hi Bob,

I'd say welcome to NPN, but apparently you've been lurking for a couple of years, so I guess I'll just have to welcome you to the ES&S Gallery! Welcome aboard finally!

Putting aside the blowing lupine for a second, I'm really liking the colors throughout and especially how several of the colors are echoed in the sky and clouds. The hues of purple throughout I think help tie the landscape and sky together. I wouldn't say this has a strong HDR look, IMHO, but perhaps slightly over saturated? It's really hard to tell though at this small size.

About the blowing lupine. Again, I think it's hard to judge here. At this size, it's certainly not a distraction for me considering the big and somewhat dominant sky. Perhaps in a bigger web or print version it will be more of an issue. I think it's one of these cases where you either A. make the blowing/blurred flowers THE major focal point, or B. you don't and you wait for that lull in the wind and just have the lupine compliment the scene. Does that make sense? And of course, that's just one person's biased opinion. Definitely would love to have seen this big though because it's a very pretty a fairly dynamic landscape from the Eastern Sierra.

Lon
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Dayton on June 21, 2010 at 7:21 PM
Great color and lighting, Robert! This is well composed. The blurring
of the foreground Lupine bothers me somewhat. The deeper lavendar
Lupine bush back a little and somewhat further to the right in front of
a large boulder doesn't seem to be blurred as much. Maybe it was pro-
tected from the wind, or perhaps it is just as much blurred but not
recognizable as such from that distance.

A possible consideration might be to crop out the lower blurred section
of the foreground Lupine and see if that works. Nevertheless, I like the
image.

Registered on November 11, 2008, 281 Posts, 3958 Comments
Comment posted by Paul Marcellini on June 21, 2010 at 8:02 PM
Wow, what an eye catcher. I really agree with everything Lon said. The lupine bother me a touch, I'm torn, as I am in some of my images of similar situation. Glad you decided to show us some of your work!
Registered on November 27, 2007, 250 Posts, 2468 Comments
Comment posted by mark cillo on June 21, 2010 at 8:13 PM
Amazing colors in the sky! Movement doesn't really bother me, could go either way IMO :wavey:
Registered on July 27, 2008, 143 Posts, 1483 Comments
Comment posted by scott lanz on June 21, 2010 at 9:49 PM
If I had my druthers, it would be for the lupine to be still. Given that that wasn't an option, you did a good job incorporating the wind into the image, which works better than usual here because of the storm clouds. The colors are simply spectacular. Personally, I would have probably liked this even better without the oak tree. Overall, however, this is a gorgeous image.
Registered on November 14, 2003, 840 Posts, 12902 Comments
Comment posted by Tony Kuyper on June 21, 2010 at 10:10 PM
The sky is incredible. Cropping the blowing lupines would still make an awesome pano.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 364 Posts, 22328 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Cubit on June 21, 2010 at 10:29 PM

"Great scene Bob. I would work the exposures a bit more so you could get some real blacks into the shadow. The heavy HDR effect here is taking away from the drama IMO."

Thanks for the comments and suggestions, Richard. I wasn’t deliberately going for an HDR look here. But I do see what you mean. The sky and fg are from two separate exposures blended with a gradient layer mask in PS (if I had more time, I would have also made some exposures using my GND filters). My original conversion for the fg was a more traditional higher contrast version. However, I felt it lost some of the more subtle tonal qualities I remembered on location. I think what you refer to as an HDR look is due to the fact that, in this version, I applied a slight reverse ‘s’ curve after setting the blacks point to just clip the darkest pixels. But I did not clip the whites in the fg all of which tends to soften the contrast.

Bob
Registered on August 26, 2007, 3 Posts, 30 Comments
Comment posted by Paul Duval on June 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM
Robert I like the Oak tree, it's one of the few areas in the E. Sierra where Oaks can be found. The colors are wild, but I know they can be sometimes up there, so I'm not overwhelmed. The blurring of the Lupine isn't a problem, but I find myself wondering if the two Lupine were so far apart in hue. It is really a great image though. Hard to find a nit.

Paul
Registered on June 30, 2009, 508 Posts, 1907 Comments
Comment posted by Ed Cooley on June 21, 2010 at 10:56 PM
Great light, color and motion Bob. This scene captures the nature of the sierras and Owens valley.
Registered on August 22, 2007, 45 Posts, 547 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Cubit on June 22, 2010 at 12:00 AM
"The blurring of the Lupine isn't a problem, but I find myself wondering if the two Lupine were so far apart in hue."

Paul, that is a very good point that I also noticed during post. Here is a crop of the two lupine from the original fg RAW exposure. Only overall saturation boosted 15 points to better show the strange color effect. You'll notice that not only do the two lupine not match in color, But the left half of the fg lupine doesn't even match the right half!? I had a similar effect on other lupine shots the evening before where half of the sky was warm toned and the other half was clear blue/cyan sky. But in this image the warm light was coming from behind, not the side. So I have no idea what caused this. I also thought it might be caused by the blur having some wierd effect on the camera sensor. But some of the moving stalks have the cooler tint. In the final image, I simply applied a cooling filter selectively to the left side of the fg lupine so at least the entire bush would look the same! Maybe I should have warmed the color temp. of the right side so both lupine matched better? :confused:
Registered on August 26, 2007, 3 Posts, 30 Comments
Comment posted by Jeffrey Sipress on June 22, 2010 at 12:15 AM
I really don't want a quiz now, just time to enjoy this fine image!
Registered on February 17, 2004, 236 Posts, 1197 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Cubit on June 22, 2010 at 1:26 AM
Tony,

The pano crop is a good idea. I think it helps to remove some of the subject competition between the oak and the fg lupine. A higher crop also works if I also crop the edges in for a smaller aspect ratio.

Bob
Registered on August 26, 2007, 3 Posts, 30 Comments
Comment posted by Neale Dyster on June 22, 2010 at 5:44 AM
I was pretty happy with the original but the pano works really well! Seems to add drama to the already
dramatic sky.
Registered on February 19, 2008, 94 Posts, 738 Comments
Comment posted by Marc Adamus on June 22, 2010 at 2:23 PM
Bob, I'm not looking at any responses before writing this, but IMO the motion does detract from the image and the processing just looks too intense/uneven in the sky for my liking. I'd just start over with the processing (I'd be happy to help here if you'd like) and in the future, try blending a couple shots to stop that wind motion in the nearest bush (ISO 1600, 2.8, 1/80 second gives you sharp flowers and DOF that extends to the end of the first bush). I know it's time consuming, but probably not as time consuming as driving out there and finding a sky like this one!
Registered on September 17, 2005, 780 Posts, 8091 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Cubit on June 22, 2010 at 2:33 PM
OK, one more and we'll put this one to rest! :biggrin:

It struck me that what some are saying is a lack of true blacks in this image may actually be a perceived effect from the lack of white/bright tones in the fg, which reduces the contast. In this version, I increased the highlights in the fg. May have over done it a bit to illustrate the point.

Thanks all!

Registered on August 26, 2007, 3 Posts, 30 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Cubit on June 22, 2010 at 2:45 PM
OK, one more and we'll put this one to rest!

It struck me that what some are describing as a lack of true blacks in this image may actually be a perceived effect from the lack of light tones in the fg. In this version, I increased the light tones, while keeping the black clipping levels the same.

Thanks all!
Registered on August 26, 2007, 3 Posts, 30 Comments
Comment posted by Patricia Brundage on June 22, 2010 at 2:46 PM
The colors are engaging, the perspective spot on, and the feeling of being in a wind tunnel real. The oak tree is a definite factor in the 3D effect of the image. After a long and hard look, I am a bit confused as to why everthing but the front lupines seem to be moving from front to back... seems logical the lupines should be leaning that way too. But honestly I don't think the average viewer would analyze an image to that extent and it is beautiful and would be a great seller. :toast:
Registered on March 23, 2006, 1111 Posts, 6531 Comments
Comment posted by Jack Graham on June 22, 2010 at 2:56 PM
Robert... I agree with Lon's comments.... and don't be afraid to pop up the ISO on that D700. I bet you could easily deal with 1600iso on this and if there is any noise something like Define 2.0 from NIk would take care of it.
JG
Registered on November 26, 2003, 158 Posts, 574 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Cubit on June 22, 2010 at 3:26 PM
Hey Marc, I'm certainly open to suggestions here. My goal as Dr. Deming would say is continuous improvement. I am familiar with the technique of blending high-ISO, wide-aperture frames to stop motion (this is one reason I bought the D700). I would have tried that here, but the the light was rapidly fading in this scene as I got set up. However in retrospect, I might have tried some high-ISO shots for fg blending, even after the sky color was gone.

This thread is getting a little long in the tooth. But if the admins don't mind and others might learn form your suggestions for improving the sky---please do!

Bob
Registered on August 26, 2007, 3 Posts, 30 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Cubit on June 23, 2010 at 1:01 PM
Lon, I really meant to respond directly to your post earlier than this. Thanks for the warm welcome. You’re right I have indeed been lurking on this forum for several years and have read many of your critiques and have enjoyed your truly outstanding images.

“And of course, that's just one person's biased opinion.”

Funny you should say that as I’ve found your opinions among this least biased and most appropriate (not to mention most prolific) of any NPN member. Those are rare skills I personally respect, value and aspire to as much or more than the ability to capture compelling images.

Three cheers to your time-honed wisdom, sir! :toast:

Bob
Registered on August 26, 2007, 3 Posts, 30 Comments
Comment posted by Kory Lidstrom on June 24, 2010 at 1:04 AM
Tony is right, IMO, the pano is the way to go -- it makes it a much stronger shot.
Registered on November 19, 2008, 49 Posts, 1035 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Cubit on June 24, 2010 at 2:00 AM
Yes, Kory, I've come to the same conclusion. And I should also give credit to Robert Dayton who first suggested cropping out the blurred lupine early in the thread.

What's also Interesting is that I've found two images at the same exposure setting---one with the right side of the fg lupine still and the other with the left side still. With a bit of tedious high-magnification work, I think it will be possible to blend the fg lupine from both frames to nearly eliminate the motion blur!

The only problem is I'm getting a little tired of looking at this image now, Time to go out and shoot! :biggrin:
Registered on August 26, 2007, 3 Posts, 30 Comments