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Snowy Egrets

by Mia McPherson

Gallery: AvianPosted December 16, 2009180 views21 comments
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This will be the last of this theme but it won't be the last image that I post with what might be considered an imperfect head angle.

From my previous Tricolored Heron and American Coot posts:
My next several posts will have sort of a theme going. Else where on the web I have seen some posts that I found interesting but several people who critiqued the images have talked about having the head angle 2 degrees this way or three degrees another. I've pondered those critiques and personally there are times when I think different head angles; even those that do not show the "perfect head turn" can be very compelling images.

So I thought I would post a few of my photos where the head angle isn't perfect but where I find that I like the images despite the lack of direct eye contact. I am curious about what you think of these so please let me know.
In this photo the primary bird is looking away, yet you can still see the eye. I believe the reason this image works for me is that it appears the Snowy is looking at the stormy water thus I don't mind the head angle. I will let you be the judge of whether this image works or not.

I like the OOF egret in the background, I feel it adds a tension that might not be there is that bird were absent.

D200, HH, laying in the sand, f5.6, 1/500, ISO 500, 80-400mm VR at 400mm, 72% of the original image, a small amount of NR applied to the background and the very tip of a bill from a sandwich tern cloned out of the left side of the frame. Natural light. Taken very early in the morning just as soe light began to appear in FL in September 2008.

As always, I sincerely appreciate your comments & critiques, thank you for indulging me with this theme and for the valuable insights & thoughts you have given on it.

Comments

21 comments
Comment posted by Ron Bielefeld on December 16, 2009 at 7:06 PM
Mia, I do like the overall feel of this image and the OOF bird in the BG does add. To me, the position of that bird is critical for it working. In this image, I think I would prefer the bird giving me more eye contact. I really cannot say why I feel that way, but to me it would just feel better.
Registered on December 6, 2008, 360 Posts, 7132 Comments
Comment posted by Ron Dudley on December 16, 2009 at 7:52 PM
I absolutely love those background breakers Mia - just the right softness and lighting on them for me. I've got to admit that you've got me thinking about some new ways to look at the head turn "requirement". This head position works well for me because we can still see the eye and the egret is so INTENT on what it is looking at out there. If it's concentration had been less intense I don't think it would have been so effective. And your IQ is of course superb.
Registered on March 30, 2007, 437 Posts, 10915 Comments
Comment posted by Brian Gatlin on December 16, 2009 at 10:06 PM
Mia, this has been a great series (sure you don't have a couple more?). I have enjoyed all three shots, as well as the exploration of different ideas of what makes a good shot. One of the things that I really admire about your images is the way they often go beyond being just a technically good shot and capture something deeper and more evocative. Whether it is something classically behavioral like the tricolored looking at the raptor or something moody like the coot or your floating gull from a while back, your shots get past "documentation" and reach the "artistic." They inspire me to new ways of looking at (and more importantly, in the field, looking for) images.

I would say of the three in the series, I prefer the first two, but this one is still a really good shot, and interesting in a way that a straight-on perfect-head-turn shot is not. The expression on this bird (between the eye, the look, the raised crest) is intriguing. Techs and comp are nice, but what makes the shot is the interesting expression on a "imperfect" head-turn.
Registered on March 21, 2009, 202 Posts, 4187 Comments
Comment posted by Raymond Klassen on December 16, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Beautiful lighting on the birds, and I like the dark bg water. I think the rear bird is a nice addition as well. Hey, if we all threw these photos out because of head angle, our photos would all look the same! Works for me! :toast:
Registered on November 30, 2008, 114 Posts, 790 Comments
Comment posted by Rob Drummond on December 16, 2009 at 11:17 PM
Nice one Mia - something's certainly out there. The dull conditions also lend the approaching weather.

cheers
Rob
Registered on November 8, 2003, 617 Posts, 8267 Comments
Comment posted by KC Choo on December 16, 2009 at 11:19 PM
This one certainly has much appeal, Mia!
Registered on November 15, 2004, 519 Posts, 8278 Comments
Comment posted by David Sparks on December 16, 2009 at 11:36 PM
This is what I'm taking away from the responses to Mia's posts on the "non-perfect head position" theme. In general, a bird image is more pleasing if the head position is profile-ish. In general, a bird image is more pleasing if there is good eye contact and a catch light. In general, these general rules or suggestions may be dismissed, if there is an artistic reason for doing so. This is similar to acceptable deviations to the "suggestion of thirds".
I really like the lighting on the birds, the pink color of the receding water, and the OOF breaking waves. I imagine that I would like the shot more if the head of the bird in focus were against the darker water. I like the inclusion of the OOF egret, but am unable to state exactly why.
This is one of those cases where horizontal alignment is problematic for me: no horizon, no reflection to line up, no vertical elements in BG, etc. Mia: how did you decide on alignment?
Registered on May 26, 2007, 290 Posts, 4270 Comments
Comment posted by Dennis Plank on December 17, 2009 at 12:43 AM
I do like the pose and head turn of the snowy, Mia. The wonderful light and the wind blown plumage add a lot to this image as well. :toast:
Registered on January 28, 2008, 1767 Posts, 23192 Comments
Comment posted by Gary Gulash on December 17, 2009 at 2:06 AM
I really like this photo Mia, it's beautiful on many levels. I have seen human models placed specifically in such poses and angles to the camera in magazines like GQ. It just "looks nicer" to not have the model looking at the camera sometimes, it creates some mystery for the viewer to wonder what he's looking at.
Registered on January 28, 2005, 879 Posts, 12098 Comments
Comment posted by Richard Ditch on December 17, 2009 at 9:55 AM
Very moody. There's a feel of isolation here that I really like, and the soft low saturation colors work well with the mood.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 1031 Posts, 12705 Comments
Comment posted by Hans Spiecker on December 17, 2009 at 10:41 AM
I quite like the head position here. I have had great pleasure watching these Snowys prance about in the waves like this and with the raised head feathers there is a feeling of concentration on the task which is very nice. This is a keeper Mia. I find there is a tendency to post the perfect profile with the perfect BG here on this forum which would exclude an excellent photo like this one.
Registered on March 23, 2006, 366 Posts, 4649 Comments
Comment posted by Carrie O'Brien-Sib on December 17, 2009 at 1:51 PM
YOUR BEST! If it were me, I would have this image made into a mural! Beyond fantastic, Mia! :toast: :toast: :toast:
Registered on August 4, 2009, 149 Posts, 889 Comments
Comment posted by Wayne Willison on December 17, 2009 at 1:57 PM
Mia, you're shooting my favorite bird here. I love how they fish, and flit over the water, and most of all I like the bad temper they display. You mention tension with the second Snowy here. I can just imagine how the primary bird is eyeing the other. It takes seemingly nothing more than another Snowy's presence to start a fight. So yes, the bg bird does supply tension in this image.
As to head turns, I don't let it bother me because I go out to shoot behavioral images. There's much more value in capturing a bird in its element than capturing one that poses for the camera ever so nicely. IMO, that is. Love the early morning pink cast on the birds.
Registered on April 10, 2009, 292 Posts, 3967 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Saunders on December 17, 2009 at 2:11 PM
Sure is a very intent bird,
Head turns that show a bird looking directly ahead seemingly into space with the bird in a sideways pose , are the one's that I've always been called up on, so I have since liked to see a slightly 'cocked' head-pose and some eye contact.
In this particular photo the Egret is obviously looking at something as is the oof bird behind, so it does not really bother me.
Rotation on this photo wouldn't work as the bird would be tipped up backwards ! :toast:
Registered on February 6, 2008, 321 Posts, 3035 Comments
Comment posted by Cliff Forrest on December 17, 2009 at 3:17 PM
Hi Mia,
To me, the colours in this photo are fantastic. I'm thinking you probably timed the photo to catch that wave breaking. That does a lot for the feeling of the picture.
-Cliff
Registered on March 3, 2009, 51 Posts, 78 Comments
Comment posted by Simon Bennett on December 17, 2009 at 3:32 PM
I think the head angle works well here because the bird's gaze is so intent. Also like warm light showing on both egrets plumage.
Registered on February 4, 2007, 350 Posts, 4614 Comments
Comment posted by Kirk Greene on December 17, 2009 at 9:37 PM
I have enjoyed your 3 shot series and wish you could continue it. It has challenged all of us to be willing to break the "rule" of a perfect head angle. As I stated on your last post, I believe that should simply be a guide that is easily deviated from for purposes of artistic expression. You have demonstrated that very well with this series.
This particular image doesn't work as well for me as your last 2 posts. The oof egret, breaking waves, & pastel reflection are nice but I would prefer a bit more eye contact with the primary subject. The image does leave me wondering what the egrets are looking at. If that final element were included in the image then the head angle wouldn't bother me and the rest of the story would be told.
Registered on May 12, 2004, 191 Posts, 1578 Comments
Comment posted by Mia McPherson on December 17, 2009 at 10:15 PM
My sincere thanks to all who have commented on this series, it has been educational for me to hear your views, comments and critiques on this theme.

David, in answer to your question about horizontal alignment, part of how I decided on the alignment is from knowing the location intimately, the other part is what I would say is a "guesstimate" because as you mentioned I had no horizon, no vertical elements to line up and the reflections are distorted at the key points I would have used.

Again, my thanks to all who have contributed to this themed series.
Registered on June 25, 2007, 491 Posts, 12566 Comments
Comment posted by Sally King on December 18, 2009 at 10:31 AM
I like the light and the wave crashing in the background. I think the subject looking into the distance works just fine.
Registered on December 2, 2008, 416 Posts, 4450 Comments
Comment posted by May Haga on December 18, 2009 at 5:11 PM
Most excellent. I do like that the bird is looking away. The second birds also adds to the image.
May
Registered on February 22, 2007, 714 Posts, 8470 Comments
Comment posted by Catherine Reilly on December 19, 2009 at 3:24 AM
The lighting you captured and the posture of the fg bird are what draws me to this image, Mia. I agree with you. Looking for always the perfect head turn or the perfect "whatever" in the subject of the moment can be stifling to creativity, imo. This image says to me, "Egrets at work." Hunting, surviving, living the moment. Nice work!
Registered on August 16, 2006, 603 Posts, 9192 Comments