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change of tones when flattening image in PS

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Posted by Stuart Williams on September 17, 2013 at 4:39 AM
I have noticed subtle changes of tone when flattening images in photoshop. Typically, the layers I have are a bunch of curves applied to various tonal ranges of the image - these I simply wish to flatten for the final master copy. Does anyone else notice this and any ideas about how to get around it?

Thanks, Stuart
Posted by Paul Breitkreuz on September 17, 2013 at 9:44 AM
Stuart, what file type are you working in for your changes and then flattening? That could be the issue.
Posted by Preston Birdwell on September 17, 2013 at 11:09 AM
Paul makes a good point. Knowing the file type will be helpful.

Also, which version of PS are you using? And, which color profile is assigned to the image.

Just a note: I do not flatten my 'master file'. You might want to go back later and make small changes to the file.

--P
Posted by Stuart Williams on September 17, 2013 at 1:40 PM
thanks, paul & preston. working on tif in CS5, 8-bit. oddly, when i flattened a different file, it didn't appear to do it. dunno, it's a bit odd. the culprit is this image - or let's say, this is the image that i noticed it on.

you're wise to keep all the layers, preston. i suppose if i were to make significant changes, i'd consider re-scanning and re-processing from scratch!
Posted by Paul Breitkreuz on September 17, 2013 at 1:51 PM
Hmmmm, not sure what you might have had happen, Stuart. CS 5 and tif should be good to go. I work in 16 bit, but never noticed any issue with 8 bit in the early days of using PS.
I'm very weak in B&W, only done one to date. So, hopefully Preston might have other thoughts here. I think he asked about the color profile too, you might look at that too for additional information to share. I use Adobe 98.
Posted by David Bostedo on September 17, 2013 at 9:47 PM
It's possible this is a display/zoom issue. Are you viewing at 100%? If you do a before and after screen cap at 100% do they look the same?

PS could just be rendering the reduced screen view a little differently depending on whether or not there are layers. If you can identify a portion of the image that changes, and it doesn't appear to change in the 100% view, then that's likely the answer.
Posted by Stuart Williams on September 18, 2013 at 1:42 AM
good points - i'll have a look at the zoom issue - could be related to that. i also used Adobe 98 as colour profile. thanks to all
Posted by Basil Greber on September 19, 2013 at 4:43 PM
I think David is on the right track. I noticed this with type layers that have effects applied to them. The effect seems to change when flattening, but as soon as you view it 100%, you realize that the flattening is accurate and it's just the downscaling on screen for viewing that introduces an artifact. It's an entirely different situation, but I would guess that the reason is the same.