Posted by Bruce Palla on August 5, 2013 at 6:05 PM
Well, I seem to have all the luck. Calumet Photo employees never saw it, and Nikon "help" isn't at all. Since most of my business is sports related, this is turning into a time consuming affair.
I will start by saying all images are individual shutter deployments, and not shot in continuous burst. It does'nt happen all the time, but it is a problem, especially in my stock car track photography. Here is the link to an example. #127 is obviously taken AFTER #128.
are they in proper sequence with the card still in the camera and viewed on the LCD? If so, that may rule out camera and lead to a card or file transfer issue. If wacky while still in camera, still could be card or transfer to card issue but then that may be camera related. Never heard of this. Try writing to Tim Grey if nobody here can solve for you.
Posted by David Bostedo on August 6, 2013 at 11:20 PM
Bruce - From the page you listed, I can't tell what shot #127 or shot #128 actually are. They don't appear to be numbered that way anywhere on the page.
And it's not clear where you're seeing the problem - in the camera, in Bridge, in the files on your computer, on your webpage, etc. More information about your process and the issue would definitely be helpful. I'd agree with John about trying to narrow down where things go off the rails.
-- Check the order in camera
-- If things are OK on the back of the camera, check that they're still OK when you look at the file names on the computer (I.e. not in Bridge, just the actual files themselves)
-- If the files are OK on the drive, then check the order in Bridge
-- If they're still OK in Bridge, then check whatever the next step is (website, or some preparation software for the website, etc.)
Posted by Bruce Palla on August 6, 2013 at 11:59 PM
Thanks for the replies. I assume it's camera/card related, but I really don't have time to ape/review all sequences, especially at the track where the next race is immeadiately after Victory Lane shots, which I don't have time to check either(noise curfew of 11pm). Dave, images are #'d under the shot. (Or smugmug is messed up in visitor view. Different rant.) I left them out of order on my website because of need for quick reference in asking for help!
Posted by David Bostedo on August 7, 2013 at 11:34 AM
They aren't numbered in visitor view then... I assume the pitcher is the one out of order, since it seems to be an out of order sequence. That doesn't tell me where the problem occurs though. Once you've downloaded, processed, and posted to the website, the issue could have cropped up anywhere in that chain. If you can't narrow it down, (and if no one else has seen this same thing and doesn't already know the answer) then I'm afraid you won't figure out what's going on.
You could try resetting the file numbering in camera to see if that has anything to do with it.
Posted by Paul DeCesare on August 7, 2013 at 5:21 PM
Bruce, the only numbers I see are in the keywords when I click on an image. Is that the criteria to sort the images? If so, maybe change the keywords so the order is correct. Stepping back, what app do you use for editing? For instance, if it's Bridge, then sort by date and see what the Nikon-issued file names are. They should line up. If they do then the problem isn't at the camera. Are the files getting renamed by the app you use for viewing/editing by any chance? In Bridge it has a Manual mode which can definitely produce a random order, and if any renaming happens, the mess will ensue. If you use Bridge, your fastest temporary solution would be to manually sort them with drag n drop, then Use Batch Rename and just assign a 3 or 4 digit Sequence number in front of the file name (or change that to taste while you're in there). But definitely ensure that they are out of whack on the card and that will tell the bigger story.
Posted by Bruce Palla on August 7, 2013 at 8:33 PM
This is happening in camera, because I just reviewed a card from the last race and there are shots out of sequence of a car crashing and rolling on the LCD, and again when loaded via Bridge. I have Bridge to sort by time of origination. Having said that, I just checked the baseball pitcher shots and the "catch" is taken before the "wait for it" shot according to the metadata, actually a full 1 second on the time stamp. Can cards lose effectiveness if they are formatted after every shoot? Are there other ways they can degrade? Thanks again, all.
Posted by David Bostedo on August 7, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Bruce - Are the photo names also out of order on the card? Or just the time/date information?
I would guess that this isn't a problem with the card (at least not directly). It doesn't care what data is written to it, and isn't capable of doing anything to re-order the images. The camera itself comtrols the file names and what the time/date info is that gets stored with each. Have you seen this with multiple cards?
Either way, whether the time/date info is being set incorrectly, or the file names are assigned incorrectly (or both) it would be a problem with the camera itself, and a fix might involve updating firmware or sending it in to Nikon in that case.
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7 repliesI will start by saying all images are individual shutter deployments, and not shot in continuous burst. It does'nt happen all the time, but it is a problem, especially in my stock car track photography. Here is the link to an example. #127 is obviously taken AFTER #128.
http://mindziphotography.smugmug.com/Sports/Bulldog-Baseball/Bulldogs-Baseball-2013/30388708_X3xWhv#!i=2618370888&k=wVhCzhH
Nikon D700, Lexar Platinum II 16GB 200x CF cards. Mac, Bridge, PS3
It doesn't matter if I use a card reader or hook up to the camera either. Any help, solutiions would be appreciated. Thanks, Bruce
And it's not clear where you're seeing the problem - in the camera, in Bridge, in the files on your computer, on your webpage, etc. More information about your process and the issue would definitely be helpful. I'd agree with John about trying to narrow down where things go off the rails.
-- Check the order in camera
-- If things are OK on the back of the camera, check that they're still OK when you look at the file names on the computer (I.e. not in Bridge, just the actual files themselves)
-- If the files are OK on the drive, then check the order in Bridge
-- If they're still OK in Bridge, then check whatever the next step is (website, or some preparation software for the website, etc.)
You could try resetting the file numbering in camera to see if that has anything to do with it.
I would guess that this isn't a problem with the card (at least not directly). It doesn't care what data is written to it, and isn't capable of doing anything to re-order the images. The camera itself comtrols the file names and what the time/date info is that gets stored with each. Have you seen this with multiple cards?
Either way, whether the time/date info is being set incorrectly, or the file names are assigned incorrectly (or both) it would be a problem with the camera itself, and a fix might involve updating firmware or sending it in to Nikon in that case.