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Canon Lens choice

Discussion

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Posted by Richard Olsen on February 27, 2012 at 12:30 PM
I'm getting ready to purchase a lens and would appreciate some input.

The lens will be used on My 5DII
I have a 24-105.
I'm looking at either a 16-35 or 17-40
Also, if I go with the 16-35, what are the differences in the old version and the new II version?

Any and all experience and suggestions will be appreciated!
Posted by Ken Atkinson on February 27, 2012 at 1:33 PM
Richard, I purchased the 17-40 several years ago to replace a kit lens. I was amazed at the improvement in image quality that I got. I now also use it on my 5Dll. When reading Outdoor Photographer, I notice a lot of the folks who have their images used in the magazine note that they used the 17-40 for those shots. I figure that's a pretty good endorsement. You may get a little bit better quality from the 16-35, but I don't know if you can notice the difference for the extra $$.
Posted by Phil Pogledich on February 27, 2012 at 5:08 PM
If you already have any quality (i.e., expensive) filters for your 24-105, it may make more sense to go with the 17-40 because the front element is the same size as on the 24-105 and you can thus use your existing filters. Otherwise, you'll be buying new filters for the larger front element of the 16-35, entailing yet more cost and some minor hassles in the field.

I can't speak to the quality difference between the 16-35 and 17-40. I have two copies of the 17-40 (don't ask why) and they both perform almost identically: relatively sharp across the frame at f/16 but distinctly fuzzy at the corners as you open the aperture. Even at f/11, while the center is superbly sharp, the edges are not. I find this highly annoying in a $750 lens and I'm not exactly a perfectionist.
Posted by Brad Mangas on February 27, 2012 at 7:51 PM
If the tree in your backyard grows hundred dollar bills just go get the 16-35 II no big deal. If it only grows ten dollar bills get the 17-40. I would lay odds that only under the most scrutinizing inspections by the pixel peepers anyone could tell a difference between the images either produce.
Posted by Wick Smith on February 28, 2012 at 8:32 AM
I got the 16-35 to go with my 5DII because the image quality was/is a bit better. I guess it depends on whether or not you are printing large prints - 16 x 24 or larger. If not, the 17-40 would be more than enough sharpness. Also, the 17-40 is quite a bit lighter if that's important in carrying your gear into remote areas.
Posted by Mark Stadsklev on February 28, 2012 at 10:41 AM
I had the 17-40 and switched to the 16-35, if I recall correctly it is faster, less chromatic aboration in the corners, and I think it's still the same size filters as the 24-105 and my 70-200. Have to look up the filter sizes. My basic theory on equipment of all kinds is to make do with what I have for as long as I can possibly stand it, then buy the very best, and hold on to it again for as long as I can stand it.
Hence I have the 1Ds Mark II (2 bodies) for some years now though the Dx will be tempting. Or was until I saw Nikon come out with a big MP monster.
Posted by David Mayhew on February 28, 2012 at 12:08 PM
16-35 is better than the 17-40. You get slight vignetting and drop of in sharpness in the corners with the 17-40 at wide aperture. I did a direct comparison - if you are near a calumet you can rent them both and try a test. The difference was notice at F5.6 and wider/more open, so if you are shooting well lit landscapes at F8 you're fine with the 17-40.

I shoot low light and my 17-40 popped off my Tamrac belt system while shooting a tornado in 2009!! Never to be seen again...
Posted by Colin Smith on February 29, 2012 at 8:30 PM
When I bought a 5DII I also added a 17-40. Maybe I had a "bad copy", but it vignetted pretty badly at F4. and the corners were a little soft with some chromatic color. I returned it and got the 16-35 II. Much better. On the other hand I have seen some wonderful shots taken with the 17-40. Probably important to remember that CS5 has a lens correction profile for either lens in ACR that will quickly correct the faults of either lens.
Posted by Todd Liotine on April 4, 2012 at 12:39 AM
Richard, It depends on what you plan to photograph. I have the 17-40 and use it for landscape photography. From what I've seen and it's true in my copy, f8-16 the 17-40 is as good or better down to the corners than the 16-35. In general lenses are designed to be at their sharpest 2-3 stops from wide open which puts the F4 series that Canon offers in the sweet spot for landscape.
Posted by Art Escobado on April 28, 2012 at 11:51 AM
There is copy variation. I refer to websites that perform lens tests to help me make a decision. It's not the only way to go about choosing but in my experience it helps my peace of mind and it gives me a base point to compare my lens. For example having purchased a Rokinon 14mm 2.8 I noticed the sample I had was softer in the corners (cursory check here) than what the review suggested I should experience. Sent it back with a note to the tech dept. They confirmed the defocusing was slightly off,made some adjustment and whatever they did improved corner performance.

17-40 vs 16-35 II This site (http://www.photozone.de/) and others like it confirms the 17-40 performs admirably in comparison to the 16-35. For me it was an easy choice once I understood the characteristics of the lenses and I thought for the price the 17-40 more than justified consideration over the 16-35.