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Finch or Warbler or something else???

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Posted by Jim Hackley on January 22, 2010 at 12:23 AM
Finch or Warbler or something else???
I can not narrow down what type of bird this is, so any help on this would be appreciated. Taken at Sweetwater Wetlands - Tucson, AZ.
Thanks,
Jim
Posted by Nick Saunders on January 22, 2010 at 3:14 AM
This looks like a Yellow Warbler Jim.
Posted by Ron McCombe on January 22, 2010 at 3:29 AM
HI Jim,
Its very similar to our Yellowhammer here in the UK

Ron
Posted by Brian Gatlin on January 22, 2010 at 9:22 AM
The bill is a warbler bill, and the plain yellow face, yellow edges on the wing coverts and flight feathers, and yellow in the tail make it a Yellow Warbler. They're rare but somewhat regular in S AZ in winter.
Posted by Lee Daniels on January 22, 2010 at 10:04 AM
Lesser Goldfinch. Female.
They're all over the place year round in Tucson.
Posted by Nick Saunders on January 22, 2010 at 11:41 AM
Lee, look again at the bill. Jims bird is a Yellow Warbler.
While similar in plumage to a female GF , the Warblers bill is designed for insect or berry feeding while the Finch's heavier bill is more geared towards seeds.

Here's a comparison photo , showing a Lesser Goldfinch :

http://www.greglasley.net/Images/Lesser-Goldfinch-0019.jpg


Posted by Jim Hackley on January 22, 2010 at 12:03 PM
Thanks for the ID.
Jim
Posted by Lee Daniels on January 22, 2010 at 5:35 PM
Nick, thanks!
I live in Tucson, photograph extensively at Sweetwater and in my own yard and have files full of both Lesser Goldies and Yellow Warblers. 14 years now of having them both common in my yard and at Sweetwater. Jim's photo is head on with no distinct bill features, but the back and plumage absolutely indicate Goldfinch. I have shots of both from both Sweetwater and my yard.
While this year has certainly yielded holdover warblers here, I'm going to stick with my original opinion here.
Always willing to be wrong.
Lee
Posted by Nick Saunders on January 22, 2010 at 6:09 PM
Ok, then we will agree to disagree Lee. No hard feelings this end :toast:
Posted by Jim DeWitt on January 22, 2010 at 6:56 PM
(Checks straps on flak jacket are secure.) :wink:

It's a female Yellow Warbler. Sonorana subspecies. Plain face, large eye, yellow edging on coverts and secondaries, absence of wing bars. The thin bill and absence of face pattern eliminates Lesser Goldfinch. As does the absence of chestnut areas on the back. This subspecies has a darker back than does the more common and northerly rubiginosa.
Posted by Charlie VanTassel on January 22, 2010 at 8:12 PM
Uh oh, Bird fight! Here's a Yellow Warbler I found at Sweetwater about two weeks ago. :biggrin:
Posted by Doug Backlund on January 22, 2010 at 8:44 PM
Unequivocally a Yellow Warbler. The bill alone separates it from a goldfinch, as already pointed out by others.
Posted by Nick Saunders on January 23, 2010 at 6:10 PM
Charlie your bird is a female Baltimore Oriole . Only joking... :razz:
Posted by Dan Borzynski on January 23, 2010 at 10:25 PM
Nope, not cloned - just a discarded Halloween costum found in the woods.