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Gull on Post

by Jim Erhardt

Gallery: AvianPosted December 9, 200516,270 views14 comments
This photo, and this thread is specifically intended to illustrate good photo critique. My thanks to those who have posted their critiques as examples of "how it's done"!


This photo of a gull was taken at a local dock using a Canon 10D digital camera and a 300mm lens though an open window in my car. I used a beanbag to steady the camera.

I like this photo because it shows a gull in its typical environment - near water perched on a man made object. However, I'm not sure about the composition or if I should crop tighter to the subject. This is the full photo from the camera - I did not crop it.

I prepared the RAW file from the camera using Photoshop CS, making adjustments to levels, contrast and saturation, and sharpened the photo before "saving for web."

Any suggestions on improving this photo are appreciated!

Canon 10D
Canon 300 f/4 lens
Kinesis Safarisack beanbag
f/4 in AV (aperture priority) mode at 1/250th shutter speed

Comments

14 comments
Comment posted by Jim Erhardt on December 9, 2005 at 3:27 PM
However, I know that some people are offended by the use of numbers in photo critiques, so I only use them when I have specific permission (or request) from the poster to do so.


Permission granted!
Registered on November 1, 2003, 245 Posts, 2421 Comments
Comment posted by Randy Harrison on December 9, 2005 at 3:55 PM
Jim,
I love the eye contact made with the bird. I personally think the bird is to far to the left in the frame. I would also crop out the small section at the top or clone it to match the rest of the upper background. I like the soft colors but the whites look a little blown in areas of the face and neck. Overall the bird looks tack sharp in the important areas.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 468 Posts, 3099 Comments
Comment posted by Kevin Thompson on December 9, 2005 at 4:41 PM
Hi Jim,
Excellent capture of the Ring-billed gull. I really like the head turn and the background is outstanding. I would like to see a little more space at the top of the photo and a bit less at the bottom. Not crazy about the 4x4 perch and would clone out the drop on top. Congrats on a fine image!
Registered on March 15, 2005, 114 Posts, 2639 Comments
Comment posted by Garth McElroy on December 9, 2005 at 4:46 PM
The techs look dead on here Jim. You've got the right idea on framing. I'd like to see the same composition but a little tighter in on the bird. The perch is less than desirable but you take what you can get sometimes! Overall, a nice image with perfect techs! :toast:
Registered on November 1, 2003, 248 Posts, 4406 Comments
Comment posted by Juza on December 9, 2005 at 4:52 PM
Hi Jim,
overall a nice photo; the clean out of focus BG provides separation from the subject. The techs are fine as well; the whites are well exposed and the detail is excellent :smile:

My only suggestion for composition would be to crop a little from the top to eliminate the (tilted?) horizon line, IMHO it is the sole minor distraction in this photo.

:wavey:
Registered on November 1, 2003, 374 Posts, 10466 Comments
Comment posted by Ken Bachofer on December 9, 2005 at 4:59 PM
The post the gull stands on draws my eye because it is vertically and horizontally oblique to the photo edges. I would rotate the image so the post appears more parallel to the edges and also clone out the top of the picture as recommended by Randy. Otherwise an excellent capture.

...Ken
Registered on August 1, 2005, 32 Posts, 142 Comments
Comment posted by Cay-Uwe Kulzer on December 9, 2005 at 6:25 PM
Jim,

first of all the technical execution of this image looks very good. The exposure is well done, because the whites show details everywhere. The image itself looks also very sharp. From composition point of view, I like the placement of the bird in the frame, since it fits with the pose of the bird, which sugest a view to the right site of the image. Here one finds open room into which the bird is "looking" to. The clean and uncluttered background it another plus for this image, also because of its blue color, which lets the gull stand out very nicely. I agree with previous comments to crop a bit from the top, to eliminate the slightly tilded shoreline at the horizon. I would also rotate the picture a bit clockwise to level the pole on which the gull is standing. I am sugesting this, since usually the poles are placed perpenticular, which is typical for this man made object :wink:
Registered on January 27, 2004, 494 Posts, 4021 Comments
Comment posted by Bob Steele on December 9, 2005 at 8:59 PM
Hi Jim,

Your technical execution looks real good. And the composition works fine for me. The head turn is just enough to get good eye contact, a very important attribute to successful bird images in my opinion. As to the suggestion of my colleagues to rotate the image to straighten the pole, I'll have to disagree. The bird looks perfectly balanced as is, if you rotate the pole level, he'll look like he's falling over backward! My suggestion for the image would be to clone out the extraneous matter on the perch by his feet. It really doesn't add to the image, and is a slight distraction with its brightness. Overall I think you succeeded in making a fine portrait of this adult Ring-billed Gull.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 354 Posts, 13896 Comments
Comment posted by George Hall, Jr on December 10, 2005 at 8:10 AM
Very nice image Jim,
the exposure of the whites and blacks looks very good as well as the sharp details of the bird, and nice OOF BG.
Because the Ring-billed Gull is looking back into and through the frame I feel the left side compostion is very good for this subject. My only suggestion might be, because of the body frame and positon of the gull, to make this a vertical pano image by cropping off most of the perch at the bottom and maybe only leaving about a ½ inch of the perch. And I also agree with the clone suggestion that the others have made with the matter at the gulls feet.
Well done. Thanks for sharing.
Registered on July 11, 2004, 283 Posts, 2395 Comments
Comment posted by Ed Dubois on December 10, 2005 at 11:23 AM
Hi Jim
I'll chime in too since you asked.

First, the technical aspects of this image are good. The details in the whites and the shadows are there although there is a little loss of detail in the black feathers that could have been helped with a little flash.

Second, the composition works pretty well too. Leaving room for the bird to look into is important as is leaving space in that direction. The space suggests that if the bird were to take off at this moment it would have room to move into.

Third, the question of impact. Here there is definite room for improvement I think. While this is the type of scene we often see, if you had been able to get the gull doing something like calling or preening the shot would have had much more punch and attracted the viewer's attention and interest.

In all I feel this is a good photo for an identification purpose but would like to see some more dramatic behaviour to put this into the WOW category.

Hope this is of some help.
Registered on February 22, 2005, 129 Posts, 4739 Comments
Comment posted by Ganesh H Shankar on December 10, 2005 at 11:49 PM
When the subject looks at the photographer the story behind the image gets diluted or there is no story. The image then need to stand on the merits of its asthetics alone- color,contrast, beauty of the bird.. Asthethically I am sure you would have preferred different perch etc but I love those eyes - looking at some possibilities. To me there is a hidden story and subtle dynamics in this apparently static image which makes it more interesting...
Registered on March 1, 2004, 324 Posts, 1867 Comments
Comment posted by LG Price on December 11, 2005 at 12:51 PM
As a novice "critiquer" let anyone feel free to say "yeah or nay" on my comments.

1 - agree about the cleaning up the top of the post.
2 - rotating the image. I think I might rotate so the the back leg is vertical. The bird shouldn't feel like it is toppling, but the post will be a little straighter.
3 - I agree that a small amount of cropping might improve things.
4- background. The background is nice but to me is very bright relative to the bird. It tends to take my eyes away from the bird. I've read about people burning it the edges to push the eyes back into the photo. I might try it on something like this photo. (although, I wonder what the experts think about this idea.)

Nice shot and clean image. I like the ruffle in the feathers, adds a little dynamic element. :wavey:
Registered on March 9, 2005, 160 Posts, 1500 Comments
Comment posted by Reindert Nijland on December 12, 2005 at 11:13 AM
This image is nicely composed and technically almost perfect. However, I have to agree with Ed Dubois that it is just a registration of a gull. Very nice for identification porposes. It however lacks some action, like a little crab :wink: in its beak, to make it a WOW picture that I would like to buy and display it in my office or house.
Registered on February 16, 2005, 54 Posts, 63 Comments
Comment posted by Carol Hyman on April 21, 2007 at 10:22 PM
Hi Jim,

A gull on a post is typical but you have turned this image into something special.

The turn of the gull's head toward the center of the image, the tuft of feathers on his neck, and the post production work are great.

You asked for suggestion on improving the image. I might consider adding a deeper shade of blue to the background in to lower portion of the photo and graduating it to the present shade of blue at the top. And without trying it, I'm not sure if it would work. Simply an idea.

Thanks for sharing.

Carol
Registered on January 18, 2007, 597 Posts, 8062 Comments