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by Stan Rose

Gallery: Man & FaunaPosted August 10, 2012132 views8 comments
I left the slightly political rant in the regional forum. Suffice it to say that im not happy our species has played a contributing role in destroying most of the pine forest in N America. This is beetle kill in S Wyoming. Wider views in the RMNP forum.

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Comment posted by Philip Hodgkins on August 10, 2012 at 7:55 PM
...destroying most of the pine forest in N America...


Lodgepole pine I am guessing. Your broad brush is way too broad for my taste. The pine forest in the SE and mid South is just fine. Although we do have instances of beetle and fungal attacks, they are very much a minor note in the overall health of Southern pine forests.
Registered on July 24, 2006, 2741 Posts, 12349 Comments
Comment posted by Stan Rose on August 10, 2012 at 8:26 PM
Yes, Philip, Lodgepole has taken the brunt. But it's also Spruce, other pines (since there are numerous beetles involved, not just the pine beetle) and extends to deciduous as well (Sudden Aspen Decline--beetles and drought/warmer winters as well) I'm glad to hear the SE forests are doing well--they are not in most of the West, from Mexico to Alaska. If you think I am broad brushing you need to take a trip out here and get a "taste" of the devastation for yourself. Oh, and speaking of the SE, I just mentioned the Wooly Adelgid epidemic that wiped out a good chunk of the Smoky Mountains--surely you are aware of this (invasive species).
Registered on September 15, 2005, 836 Posts, 17099 Comments
Comment posted by Wayne Jones on August 10, 2012 at 10:24 PM
Great issue, and a good photo to illustrate just one of the many consequences of human-influenced climate change.
I think the muted colors -- even in the sky -- help establish the mood here. Unfortunately, I wonder how many people will recognize how serious the issue is simply by seeing a few dead trees in a single photograph. Keep working on this, and come up with an image that will really shock people.

I hope anyone interested in this topic also looks at your post in the discussion forum.
Registered on April 18, 2007, 953 Posts, 6435 Comments
Comment posted by Stan Rose on August 11, 2012 at 12:19 AM
Thanks Wayne--it's depressing photography, which is why ive turned a blind eye to it myself for so long. But since oddly many people are unaware of the scope of this phenomena, i'm gonna start documenting. I'm not sure what it would take to get people's attention though--this is a society that assumes everything is fantasy and only affects the other guy. If you have any ideas--send them my way!
Registered on September 15, 2005, 836 Posts, 17099 Comments
Comment posted by Nancy Lea Sandy on August 12, 2012 at 12:14 AM
It's depressing, for sure. In the Big Horns, where I live, it's Charmanga Rust that's behind most the die off (although pine beetles do their share as well) . A winter with two solid weeks of severe cold (20 below at least) would be most welcome.
Registered on January 24, 2011, 576 Posts, 6942 Comments
Comment posted by John Tobias on August 12, 2012 at 12:46 PM
I wonder how much if any the tracts of dead pines and other trees contributed to the recent fires in Colorado? I was very and sadly shocked to see how much of the pine forests were dead on my last visit in 2010. Your photo illustrates the problem well.
Registered on September 12, 2009, 2120 Posts, 6455 Comments
Comment posted by Stan Rose on August 13, 2012 at 12:58 AM
John--the High park fire which burned a couple hundred homes in the Poudre Canyon area west of Ft Collins was fueled by the beetle killed trees. The biggest fire is yet to come. A big burn may or may not be a good thing...
Registered on September 15, 2005, 836 Posts, 17099 Comments
Comment posted by Carl Battreall on August 13, 2012 at 1:49 AM
Stan, I think your broader scale images posted in the RMNP forum have more impact. I wouldn't get your hopes up about cold killing beetles. Alaska has plenty of Spruce Bark beetles and you must remember that a key attribute of an invasive species is that it can adapt and evolve quickly.

media feeds on and the public thrives on drama, fires yes, dead forest, no. The human race has become immune to to sight of violence and despair. I really don't know what needs to happen to get people to change their lifestyle, it is possibly the hardest thing people have trouble doing, many would kill before changing what they eat, wear and drive.

We also must always keep or short and rather insignificant existence in perspective, the earth will continue on and new creatures will emerge, long after our species goes extinct.
Registered on August 29, 2007, 24 Posts, 222 Comments