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Milky Way Over Arches
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Milky Way Over Arches

by Alex Noriega

Gallery: LandscapePosted May 19, 2012796 views27 comments
UPDATE: Here's an updated version of the shot, taking into account the feedback I got here. I think it's much better now, thanks! See my comment down below for what I changed, or just take a look.


My first NPN post! Decided to give the 30-day trial a shot, since the articles/galleries/critique all seem to be of a much higher quality here than on other free sites.

This is Double Arch under the Milky Way. Arches National Park, Utah, October 2011. The main arch is 104 feet tall, and 148 feet wide.

I don't usually bore people with the details of how a shot was made, but I get a lot of questions about this one, so:

Foreground exposure: ISO 400, f/4, 7 minutes, 6500K WB
Sky exposure: ISO 3200, f/2.8, 30 seconds, 4200K WB
Canon 40D, EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 @ 17mm

I painted the arches with an LED flashlight while lying down behind the lower-center rocks - I wanted back/side lighting to bring out the texture in the rock. I also had to experiment with how long to spend on each arch/edge, as they were all different sizes. I ended up spending over half the exposure painting the main arch, and split the rest of the time amongst the other edges and the background arch.

The warm foreground WB was used to compensate for the fairly cool LED flashlight color, to try to restore their natural red hue. I hand-blended the two exposures in PS with masks, and cloned out a light trail my flashlight left at the bottom of the frame.

I could have done this in a single frame if I had a warm gel for my flashlight, and a body like the 5D2/D700, where I would have been happy with the foreground quality at ISO 3200. However, the longer foreground exposure ended up working in my favor, as the lighting appears smoother with the painting spread over more time. As it is, I'm surprised at how well the 40D did on the sky - but it did take some significant noise reduction.

The desert can be a bit scary at night alone (particularly with signs warning of mountain lions) - but well worth the photographs.

Comments

27 comments
Comment posted by Rick Turner on May 19, 2012 at 8:47 AM
Great start to sharing at NPN. Can't wait for more.
Registered on February 18, 2012, 534 Posts, 2755 Comments
Comment posted by Balan Vinod on May 19, 2012 at 12:02 PM
Alex ..beautifully crafted image ..had seen this on ES too ..well done ..love this one ..Well done

Balan Vinod
Registered on March 20, 2006, 889 Posts, 2312 Comments
Comment posted by Jeffrey Sipress on May 19, 2012 at 12:06 PM
Great work, Alex.

Are you friends with Charles Farmer?
Registered on February 17, 2004, 236 Posts, 1197 Comments
Comment posted by scott lanz on May 19, 2012 at 12:17 PM
Welcome to NPN. Amazing first post. Expertly accomplished, and I appreciate you sharing the technical details. :toast: :wavey:
Registered on November 14, 2003, 840 Posts, 12902 Comments
Comment posted by Ian Cameron on May 19, 2012 at 12:52 PM
Great shot and wonderful night sky display between those meshed arches.
Registered on August 6, 2004, 1125 Posts, 3318 Comments
Comment posted by Eva McDermott on May 19, 2012 at 5:10 PM
Welcome to NPN Landscape Gallery Alex. Stunning first post loaded with gorgeous light and abstract qualities.

BTW - Be sure to comment on others' posts.
Registered on January 4, 2009, 1015 Posts, 13229 Comments
Comment posted by Nicolaus Wegner on May 19, 2012 at 5:25 PM
Fippin awesome work Alex.
Registered on February 21, 2010, 133 Posts, 1509 Comments
Comment posted by Koveh Tavakkol on May 19, 2012 at 5:29 PM
Turned out great man. A few hot spots with the light painting, but overall very clean. Also welcome to NPN.
Registered on September 1, 2009, 41 Posts, 608 Comments
Comment posted by Patricia Brundage on May 19, 2012 at 6:58 PM
Awesome first post! The most unusual take Arches well handled. Welcome and I look forward to future posts.
Registered on March 23, 2006, 1111 Posts, 6531 Comments
Comment posted by Rick Diffley on May 19, 2012 at 8:18 PM
Very nice. Welcome and hope you stay after the 30 day trail period.
Registered on April 8, 2012, 52 Posts, 279 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Dayton on May 19, 2012 at 8:36 PM
Great first post, Alex! This is fine art. Thanks for the breakdown on how you did this.
If it's not illegal, you might try having a can of pepper spray to fend off an approaching
mountain lion. However, they might charge right through that. I'm looking forward to
your future posts.
Registered on November 11, 2008, 281 Posts, 3958 Comments
Comment posted by Youssef Ismail on May 19, 2012 at 10:23 PM
Alex,

Welcome to NPN. Hope to see you posting here past the 30 days trial as this level you are bound to inspire us quite a bit. This is really nice and well executed. I might have exposed the arches a little less to minimize the competition they give the sky. As it is I am not sure where my attention should go. In any case an awesome photo. :toast:
Registered on November 1, 2003, 474 Posts, 5555 Comments
Comment posted by Aaron Feinberg on May 20, 2012 at 5:04 AM
Saw this on ESS...great work.

aF
Registered on October 26, 2009, 399 Posts, 2789 Comments
Comment posted by John Fan on May 20, 2012 at 7:58 AM
Welcome to NPN. Great job with the light painting and ps. My only nit is that the rocks lost some nature color.
Registered on August 24, 2010, 135 Posts, 489 Comments
Comment posted by Jenaya Launstein on May 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: Spectacular image, Alex! Very creative, and well seen! What an awesome first post :wink: . Welcome to NPN, and I sure can't wait to see more of your incredible work!
Registered on February 8, 2011, 254 Posts, 1302 Comments
Comment posted by Reed Bowman on May 20, 2012 at 1:54 PM
Well done Alex and welcome to NPN. I love the composition and the light painting. My only nit was the color temp of your LED...just personal preference but I would have liked it a bit warmer...
Registered on March 2, 2009, 166 Posts, 1058 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Bristol on May 20, 2012 at 2:34 PM
Welcome to NPN Alex! This is fantastic... :wavey:

Nick Bristol
Lone Rock, WI
Registered on February 1, 2004, 752 Posts, 14140 Comments
Comment posted by Kah Kit Yoong on May 20, 2012 at 6:03 PM
Amazing capture and welcome. NPN is one of the only places where you will get feedback and real opinions instead meaningless pats on the back :wink:
Registered on September 27, 2006, 636 Posts, 10682 Comments
Comment posted by Rob Graham on May 21, 2012 at 12:38 AM
Welcome to NPN. This is a beautiful image, and I like how you painted the rocks. At this size, the blend between the sky and the rocks looks good. I agree with Youssef that the rocks could be a little darker, to bring out the stars.
Registered on August 22, 2006, 842 Posts, 2824 Comments
Comment posted by Tom Kualii on May 21, 2012 at 1:28 AM
That is a cool process to try and capture. Like it! Thank you for the information.
Registered on November 24, 2010, 53 Posts, 139 Comments
Comment posted by Justin Reznick on May 21, 2012 at 1:03 PM
Welcome Alex! Fantastic comp, great 1st image!
Registered on November 24, 2009, 79 Posts, 515 Comments
Comment posted by Tony Kuyper on May 21, 2012 at 10:32 PM
That's really amazing, Alex. I'd find this hard to conceive, but your efforts sure paid off.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 364 Posts, 22328 Comments
Comment posted by Alex Noriega on May 21, 2012 at 10:45 PM
Thanks for all the comments, everyone - it's awesome getting actual feedback instead of, as Kah said, pats on the back.

I've heeded Koveh's advice about the hotspots - fixed the one at the lower-left of the smaller arch window, in particular. In the same vein, I toned down all the brighter areas of painting, as Youssef and Rob suggested. I also warmed up and bumped the saturation in the arches, as well as pushing the reds a smidge more toward magenta - as per Reed and John's suggestions.

Thanks to Tony Kuyper for luminosity/saturation masks and the gray burn/dodge layer - used all those to make these adjustments painlessly. :)

I'm not sure what NPN's repost etiquette/rules are, so I've uploaded the adjusted version here if anyone would like to check it out: http://500px.com/photo/7838538
Registered on May 19, 2012, 80 Posts, 195 Comments
Comment posted by Scott Smorra on May 22, 2012 at 10:38 AM
Awesome image Alex and great 1st post on NPN. The repost looks much better to me with the changes you made. Thanks for explaining your technical details. Hope you stick around longer than the 30 day trial!
Registered on November 2, 2009, 161 Posts, 2143 Comments
Comment posted by Zack Clothier on May 23, 2012 at 11:54 AM
Great first post Alex, I checked out the repost on 500px, looks much improved! :toast:
Registered on January 28, 2010, 343 Posts, 2257 Comments
Comment posted by Dennis Harding on May 25, 2012 at 1:56 AM
Welcome to NPN Alex. Great shot!
Registered on January 19, 2011, 33 Posts, 408 Comments
Comment posted by Alex Noriega on June 2, 2012 at 2:27 PM
Here's the updated version - I only just yesterday realized you can attach an image to comments.
Registered on May 19, 2012, 80 Posts, 195 Comments