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Thor's Well, + Repost
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Thor's Well, + Repost

by Scott Miller

Gallery: LandscapePosted January 11, 2012439 views21 comments
One thing I have loved about getting more active in online photo communities is meeting new people. This past weekend I went on a quick overnight trip with 3 such people, one of them being NPN's Jeremy Cram. Since Jeremy beat me to the punch processing and posting the great sunset we got at the Cauldron, I will start by posting a picture from Thor's Well that morning.

Thanks for looking, and thanks in advance for any critique.

Comments

21 comments
Comment posted by Harry Lichtman on January 11, 2012 at 6:20 AM
What an interesting phenom. - looks like something in a sci fi movie that goes to the center of the earth. The processing looks a bit too cyan for my tastes. i might also consider cropping some of the left dark rocks - they are a bit of an eye draw in contrast to the rest of thescene - maybe 1/2 of the rocks? I think the water flow-shutter speed works to give that sense of motion. Would love to see deeper into the well, but I figure that might be impossible unless you wanted to take the ride of your life :biggrin: .
Registered on September 17, 2010, 304 Posts, 3507 Comments
Comment posted by Tom Hilton on January 11, 2012 at 7:16 AM
Scott,
I really like your shot.
The cool color balance sets an interesting tone.
The scene itself is fascinateing,the water motion is perfect and I really like your comp.
I would love to see this big not NPN big but 20x30 big.
Nicely done
Registered on September 19, 2011, 68 Posts, 668 Comments
Comment posted by scott lanz on January 11, 2012 at 8:19 AM
The good: interesting subject, good comp, and excellent ss for the water motion. The not as good: the overcast sky and flat light.
Registered on November 14, 2003, 840 Posts, 12902 Comments
Comment posted by Doug Roane on January 11, 2012 at 8:27 AM
What a cool place! The blue cast enhances the sense of mystery and danger.
Registered on December 12, 2008, 213 Posts, 2226 Comments
Comment posted by R.Bill Moser on January 11, 2012 at 11:26 AM
This looks like a phantastic place to photograph. I like your comp. Perfect shutter speed.
Registered on January 29, 2010, 285 Posts, 4281 Comments
Comment posted by Eva McDermott on January 11, 2012 at 12:32 PM
I like the water action Scott. At first I was on the fence about the blue/cyan cast but without it, I think it would look more like a B&W and lose some of the mood.
Registered on January 4, 2009, 1015 Posts, 13229 Comments
Comment posted by Phil Pogledich on January 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM
I really like the curves and textures in the foreground water, not to mention the fascinating "well" feature. Altogether a very interesting shot. Color and processing feel just fine to me. Must have been dangerous to capture this . . .
Registered on August 24, 2009, 123 Posts, 3099 Comments
Comment posted by Randall Smith on January 11, 2012 at 2:22 PM
Scott: I would agree with a number of Harry's comments: a tighter shot of the hole would have made a more compelling image, and a color balance away from the intense cyan tone would help with the contrast between the rocks and the water. I don't know whether it is feasible, but if the image was shot from the 8:00 position relative to the current perspective, there would be less distraction from the rocks on the left. The DR seems somewhat limited, so a levels adjustment and a midtone contrast bump could really add some pop. Mark Metternich has a very useful set of techniques for dealing with these issues. His approach would add contrast to the water, but not the rocks or brighter highlights. Overall, a very interesting image which could benefit from additional postprocessing. Randall
Registered on June 13, 2009, 30 Posts, 69 Comments
Comment posted by John Williams on January 11, 2012 at 2:43 PM
I really need to visit this some day, it's a fascinating feature. Great shot here Scott. Did you play with BW? I wonder if that would look good, especially if the sky were milked for dramatic contrast.
Registered on September 6, 2007, 221 Posts, 5985 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Metternich on January 11, 2012 at 4:54 PM
Everyone know to be CAREFUL shooting in this and any coastal area like this!!! I love interacting with surf and especially love this whole area on the Oregon Coast (there are countless "Cauldrons" here) but one false move could prove devastating.

Having said that, I like the image Scott. We will have to go out soon once I move up.

I love the water texture in the "hole" area and the water in the FG pouring into it. I like the background waves too. I even like the really moody grey mood.

My main wishes are another perspective on this without the left dark mass. I also think the color balance could be neutralized or balanced a little more.
Registered on June 19, 2009, 276 Posts, 6240 Comments
Comment posted by Scott Miller on January 11, 2012 at 5:05 PM
Thanks for the comments guys, I always appreciate the critique.

I actually had two crops of this stored in my Lightroom library already, here is the one a number of you seem to have asked for with some of the dark rocks removed. The full size version has some more detail in those rocks, but I agree there are still an eye draw. I also toned down the blues in this one, I am on the fence about those though. The blue tones were pretty representative of the scene when we arrived since this was predawn with overcast skies. The blue added to the mood something that the lighting couldn't give. That said, I do like it toned down just a touch as I did here.
Registered on May 9, 2011, 23 Posts, 322 Comments
Comment posted by Scott Miller on January 11, 2012 at 5:14 PM
A number of people also mentioned getting closer or commented on the danger. Getting closer was just something I wasn't willing to do. Actually I only stood in this spot for a few minutes right when we got here, and I was standing on a small rock formation so as to be a little elevated. The tide was rising and I decided to retreat to higher ground when the first big wave came and then I didn't come back down to this location. It just wasn't worth the risk.

This also lead to a few of the other issues I had: usually I would take a few bracketed shots for the dark area on the left, but the waves wouldn't allow for that too much. :)

Oh and John, since the color palette is already very limited I didn't find the B&W to enhance it much, and because of the limited tones I already amped up the clarity and used some high pass filters to bring out cloud drama as much as my PS skills allow. :)

And Mark - as soon as you get to Portland let me know, we will head out to shoot something. I am really enjoying meeting new shooting partners.
Registered on May 9, 2011, 23 Posts, 322 Comments
Comment posted by Jeremy Cram on January 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM
Cool shot Scott. I love the FG water action. I thought when I saw this on your LCD that there was more color in the sky there in the URC. Either way, very cool shot and definitely a fun shoot.
Registered on June 4, 2006, 204 Posts, 818 Comments
Comment posted by Scott Miller on January 11, 2012 at 6:45 PM
The upper right hand portion has a little bit of a bright patch, but no color to speak of. If I wanted it there it would involve making it appear out of nowhere. The sky already has a warming filter and a very slight magenta filter added in order to bring out the texture and color gradations along with some selective saturation on the lighter areas to try and bring out any non blue tones.
Registered on May 9, 2011, 23 Posts, 322 Comments
Comment posted by Chris Chamberlain on January 11, 2012 at 11:16 PM
Your shutter speed left you with great texture and flow in the water. Neat scene, I'd like to see this one day. maybe it's a little blocked up in the shadows on the left.

Chris
Registered on March 13, 2007, 500 Posts, 8365 Comments
Comment posted by David Edwards on January 12, 2012 at 3:51 AM
Love the swirling water textures in the fg and the detail of the streams as they descend into the well. It's a shame there's not a little bit more color in the sky to break up the overall blue cast.
Registered on December 6, 2008, 142 Posts, 2623 Comments
Comment posted by Ned Fenimore on January 12, 2012 at 12:12 PM
Beautiful spot.. nice capture!
Registered on November 1, 2003, 467 Posts, 2803 Comments
Comment posted by Phil Pogledich on January 12, 2012 at 12:36 PM
Came back to see the repost. I have to say, for my tastes the color in the original feels more natural. I've been on the receiving end of critiques about the "blue" of water in a couple of my shots taken at the ends of the day, and I've consequently paid a lot more attention to it in the field. The blues in the original feel just about right to me based upon those more recent observations. Both versions are excellent though!
Registered on August 24, 2009, 123 Posts, 3099 Comments
Comment posted by Kyle L. Krause on January 12, 2012 at 7:40 PM
Wow, the power of mother nature. Scott, you did a great job on this image, I like your original version.
Registered on June 15, 2010, 29 Posts, 605 Comments
Comment posted by Scott Miller on January 13, 2012 at 4:41 AM
Thanks for the last batch of comments everyone! And Phil and Kyle, I have decided I like the original blue tones as well. I did decide that my final version will have a slight crop off of the left hand side though. Not quite as much as I reposted, but enough to remove some of the dark rocks.

Thanks for the help everyone, I really appreciate everyone's opinions.
Registered on May 9, 2011, 23 Posts, 322 Comments
Comment posted by Tony Kuyper on January 13, 2012 at 11:40 PM
The textures here are perfect and I really like the cool light. Could maybe see trying to pull a bit more textures out of the dark rocks along the left edge.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 364 Posts, 22328 Comments