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by Bill Fach

Gallery: FloraPosted August 7, 2011152 views11 comments
Sony A700
Minolta 200mm macro
ISO 200, 1/25 @ f8
8 image STACK! :eek:

OK, perhaps even really old dogs can learn new tricks. I just upgraded to CS5 and decided to try a stack on this small calla. Looking for tips and suggestions. This was shot indoors so I could use very small increments and work slowly. All comments welcome. >=))>

Comments

11 comments
Comment posted by Ramamohan Pai on August 7, 2011 at 11:37 PM
Bill, Great job on stacking but soon you will realize that PS-CS5 is pathetic at stacking. Love the lighting here - soft and lighting the throat :cool: .

Nice take on the Calla Lily. Sorry to hear about the drought situation in Texas. Hope you get copious rains soon enough.
Registered on November 1, 2003, 550 Posts, 9037 Comments
Comment posted by Philip Hodgkins on August 8, 2011 at 12:51 AM
CS5 is fairly rudimentary, but is great for manual stacking, especially in outdoor situations with a slight (very slight!!) breeze blowing. I adjust slightly cropped photos in LR, moving the frame to get as perfectly aligned as possible. I have done as many as 5 this way, with over half doing well in both Helicon and CS5. I do the final alignment in CS5 in the layers panel, making invisible all but the bottom two layers. I turn the view of the top layer of the two to "difference" and use the arrow keys to align the images until I get a dark screen. I move up each layer that way. Sometimes there is rotational misalignment as well, which I do using the edit menu>transform>distort. It is time consuming, to say the least. :eek:
Registered on July 24, 2006, 2741 Posts, 12349 Comments
Comment posted by Gary Yeoh on August 8, 2011 at 2:03 AM
Bill:

Great to see you have started stacking. :jump: I used CZM inially, then CS5 but now do most of my stack in Helicon which really easy to use. Your first stack looks great and the selective lighting in the throat of this calla is very well done.

Now that you have upgraded to CS5 and started stacking, when are you going to get the scanner? :biggrin:
Registered on September 1, 2009, 588 Posts, 8184 Comments
Comment posted by Bob Duff on August 8, 2011 at 6:20 AM
Oh no! You're on the slippery slope now Bill. As Gary suggests when's the scanner coming? Wait till Pat chimes in!! And then the pressure for radiographic images........ :wink:
Registered on April 21, 2010, 160 Posts, 1675 Comments
Comment posted by Mark Seaver on August 8, 2011 at 12:09 PM
Nice view down the throat. Had to go to the larger version before I was sure about what I was seeing. I'd be tempted to tone down the highlight on the left just a tad so that I could see more details in the top of the petal. The stacking comments are interesting...so much to learn.
Registered on January 23, 2011, 1103 Posts, 17270 Comments
Comment posted by Wayne Jones on August 8, 2011 at 1:25 PM
The stack looks pretty good Bill, but does have some typical CS5 errors. CS5 works OK under controlled shooting conditions if you don't have very closely-spaced areas at different distances, such as pine needles that you want to be in focus as well as their background. It looks like CS5 selects areas in sharp focus and leaves a feathered edge around them to blend in with the next image. As a result, I often have to do some manual repair work along edges.
In your image, you can see these edge problems along the lower edge of the petal, where the edges of the leaf behind it intersect the petal. Repairs involve using bits of the original in-focus images to replace the fuzzy and misalligned parts. Seems like this happens in more than half of the stacks I try to make (mainly because I only shoot outdoors, and sometimes don't even use a tripod), so I may end up spending the money for a dedicated stacking program one of these days. I don't know if that would really be necessary for controlled indoor shooting, however, unless those edge repairs become intollerable.
Registered on April 18, 2007, 953 Posts, 6435 Comments
Comment posted by David Cobb on August 8, 2011 at 1:54 PM
Nice light on that calla swirl Bill.
Registered on December 14, 2007, 312 Posts, 3243 Comments
Comment posted by Pat Sampson on August 8, 2011 at 8:01 PM
Bill,

I like this image very much. Your typical strong composition and accomplished pof, dof control.

I've never done a stack using CS5. I started with an eval of Helicon, you gave me a weekly EP for the image I worked with it (smile), and I never looked back. Helicon does occasionally create artifacts but it is incredibly simple to use. Most of my initial stacks were done outdoors. Several of my weekly picks are outdoor stacks. There's really only one kind of artifact if the stack succeeds. You'll see blurs in some cases where one edge overlays another plane. (Technically, the algorithms edge detection algorithm is failing.) I'd urge you to download Helicon and try it. You just need to keep a constant light level while you shoot the entire stack otherwise Helicon will warn you and my experience is that it's best to throw the images away in that case. Obviously several of us will be glad to answer any questions that we can. (smiile)

pat
Registered on May 19, 2007, 953 Posts, 15989 Comments
Comment posted by Carolyn Derstine on August 8, 2011 at 9:45 PM
Great job of creating a clear look down the throat of this flower but still keeping the BG blurred. I guess that's what stacking can do for you. Still have yet to try it; I don't have any program to do it at this point. Still so much I could learn. . . :rolleyes:
Registered on February 16, 2011, 610 Posts, 3684 Comments
Comment posted by Albert Darmo on August 8, 2011 at 10:07 PM
Hi Bill :wavey: Very fine results on your first stack!!!! :jump: The detail , light and color on this Calla are exceptional :cool: :smile:
Registered on November 25, 2008, 1386 Posts, 11978 Comments
Comment posted by Morris McClung on August 9, 2011 at 10:56 PM
A very artistic image, Bill! All of the elements work so well in this one. Superb work!
Registered on May 7, 2007, 670 Posts, 19650 Comments