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Crop or Not?

by Lori Kincaid

Gallery: LandscapePosted May 16, 2011264 views25 comments
I've developed my own opinion about whether or not to crop this image of a dogwood in the Smokies, but am curious how others see it. 1st version is full frame and the second has a slight crop. Which do you prefer? I'll share my thoughts after you've had a chance to share yours.

4x5
400mm lens
warming polarizer
Velvia 100

Thanks!

Lori

Comments

25 comments
Comment posted by Lori Kincaid on May 16, 2011 at 9:02 PM
Here's the cropped version.
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Comment posted by Floris van Breugel on May 16, 2011 at 9:11 PM
Beautiful and complex image of the dogwoods, Lori. Those two trunks really help organize the image into something I can take in. I prefer the uncropped version, as I think the dark edge on the right helps frame the whole image, and it extends the leading curve of the dogwood such that it leads my eye into the frame, rather than out.
Registered on December 19, 2008, 306 Posts, 4840 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on May 16, 2011 at 9:21 PM
Lori,

First off, this is a beautiful image. I was just looking for stuff like this in Yosemite this last weekend - to no avail. As far as the crop goes, my initial impression differs from Floris. My self imposed "rule" is, if you're going to cut something off in the frame, do it with intention. In other words, the cropped version composition seems to have more intent and focus. The uncropped version, at least to me, seems undecided so to speak; should I include the full trunk on the right? maybe there's something obstructing the complete view of the dogwood trunk, etc.? The partially cut off trunk raises too many questions. Did she need a wider view to include the whole tree?

OTOH... the uncropped version feels like it has more depth.

Will be curious to hear your preference.

Lon
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Nick Bristol on May 16, 2011 at 9:25 PM
Beautiful spring picture Lori. I prefer the uncropped version for the same reasons as Floris. I enjoy this very much!

Nick Bristol
Lone Rock, WI
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Comment posted by Mark Pelton on May 16, 2011 at 9:33 PM
Beautiful shot Lori. I much prefer the slight crop.
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Comment posted by Grant Collier on May 16, 2011 at 9:33 PM
When I first glanced at this post, I thought it said "Crap or Not." So, I'll say it's definitely not crap! And I'd say don't crop. I think the full arc of the tree adds to the photo and contrasts nicely with the straight trees in the background. If anything, I think the first might be slightly too tight of a crop and maybe you could have zoomed out just a tad.
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Comment posted by Eva McDermott on May 16, 2011 at 9:38 PM
Gorgeous forest scene Lori. My preference is the uncropped version. It gives the non-arching trunk on the right a little more room. Beautiful scene overall with a refreshing breath of spring.
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Comment posted by Justin Reznick on May 16, 2011 at 9:47 PM
What about cropping off the top as well and have the downward branch as the subject? That would be my preference, but maybe a different direction than where you want to go. Beautiful image Lori!
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Comment posted by Todd Liotine on May 16, 2011 at 11:21 PM
i prefer the uncropped version, i like the curve created and the branch pointing down off the curve leading the eye back to the center
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Comment posted by Michael Hardeman on May 16, 2011 at 11:31 PM
Put me down for uncropped, Lori. Beautiful image.
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Comment posted by Richard Teller on May 17, 2011 at 12:12 AM
I have looked at both image several times read all of the other posts and I think I like the uncropped version best.
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Comment posted by Bill Fach on May 17, 2011 at 12:19 AM
Lori: Tough call, I'll take one of each :wink: I think I'll give the cropped version a 51-49 edge but this is really well seen and composed both ways. Nicely done.>=))>
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Comment posted by Neale Dyster on May 17, 2011 at 2:30 AM
initially went for the cropped, but after a few viewings have settled on the original. They're both great images.
Registered on February 19, 2008, 94 Posts, 738 Comments
Comment posted by Bill Chambers on May 17, 2011 at 9:53 AM
Beautiful woods shot Lori. I'm a little torn on the crop, but I'm leaning toward the first version (uncropped).
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Comment posted by Stuart Williams on May 17, 2011 at 10:58 AM
uncropped for me. but i also like crop from top as alternative. nice work. now time for you to share your thoughts!
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Comment posted by Barbara Graham on May 17, 2011 at 2:56 PM
Beautiful colors and lines and light. I prefer the uncropped version.
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Comment posted by Peter Richter on May 17, 2011 at 2:59 PM
Lori, there is more suspense in the cropped version; yet in my opinion, this is not really consistent with the tranquil atmosphere of this scene. That´s why I prefer the uncropped version, which is a very delightful image in my opinion. Thanks for sharing and the opportunity to discuss!

Peter
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Comment posted by R.Bill Moser on May 17, 2011 at 3:27 PM
Beautiful forest scene. I'd prefer the uncropped version.
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Comment posted by Harley Goldman on May 17, 2011 at 6:16 PM
Both work well, but put my vote down for the uncropped. I like the framing of the side trunk.
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Comment posted by Lori Kincaid on May 17, 2011 at 8:15 PM
Thanks for all the great feedback, everyone! It looks like the majority chose the uncropped version, which is where I finally settled.

A little background: in the field my options were to either leave no room to the right of the dogwood trunk due to other obstructions or settle for some sky shining through behind the arch. I couldn't do both and thus chose the tight trunk as less of a distraction than bright sky in the background. When I first scanned the film my first instinct was to crop the trunk since, like Lon, I usually try to make everything in the frame intentional but not contrived, which is a delicate balance. But after looking at it awhile I felt like the crop upset the flow of the image and didn't allow me to settle into it and enjoy the warmth of a Spring day (badly needed today as we're experiencing whippoorwill winter where I live). So ultimately I settled on the full-frame image. The interesting thing to me is it's contrary to all my "learned instincts" (oxymoron, I know) to leave a major element on the edge that way, but it just feels better! It was a lesson I've learned before, but forget from time to time: in photography all that really matters is what feels right!

Thanks again,
Lori
Registered on November 15, 2003, 90 Posts, 2033 Comments
Comment posted by Ed Lowe on May 17, 2011 at 10:20 PM
I prefer the uncropped version, Lori. For me the tree trunk on the right helps frame the image and it makes for a wonderful graceful curve leading me into the woods.

Ed
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Comment posted by Adrian Klein on May 18, 2011 at 12:30 AM
A beauty of a scene Lori and has your style stamped on it for sure. I would not crop it. I think it's much better with it keeping the viewer roaming around in this nice forest scene.
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Comment posted by Michael Lowe on May 18, 2011 at 12:38 AM
I'd be happy to have either one, but i vote for the uncropped version and echo Ed's reasons. :toast:
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Comment posted by Chris Chamberlain on May 18, 2011 at 1:56 AM
Hmmm, probably the first one for the sense of depth already mentioned. The cropped version is good as well. Nice forest you have there!

Chris
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Comment posted by Daniel Rappaport on May 18, 2011 at 10:12 PM
Beautiful image. I think that the uncropped version uses the curved trunk to frame the image nicely.
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