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Osprey

by Ashley Vincent

Gallery: AvianPosted April 21, 2011104 views12 comments

Canon EOS 7D, EF 500mm f/4L IS USM, Aperture Priority, f/4 (1/2000 sec), ISO 200, +2/3 EV, Handheld, JPG from RAW, Cropped About 15% in Total from Upper and Left-Hand Edges

And here's the last of the current 3-part mini series on large birds in flight shot at Beung Boraphet, Nakhon Sawan, here in Thailand.

This Osprey was pretty cooperative or, more likely, totally disinterested in me snapping pictures of it from our boat ;^)

We got to watch it take off, circle the water numerous times making several unsuccessful attempts at catching fishy treats, then returning to the same tree to rest for a while before setting off again.

It wasn't our first encounter with this spectacular raptor; we'd already come across it the day before in the same location, only that time we actually saw it in flight with a headless fish in it's talons, however, the shots I got of that were set against a stark white sky and, probably due to my excitement at this being my first opportunity with an Osprey, the best focus I acquired left a lot to be desired, hence the reason why I'm showing you this one instead ;^)

Time spent offering thoughts, opinions and/or advice will be much appreciated as always, thanks in advance :^)

The following is a message to Mia if you happen to be here …... for some reason I seem to be rhyming everything I say … dare I say, today?!?! ;^p

Although I can't see one in this image as is, I checked it with Threshold looking for a halo and hidden artefacts. Seeing it in B&W there didn't seem to be a halo as such, but there were many black pixels graduating away from the subject growing more dense as they reached the outer edges of the frame so, still not completely sure whether I should do anything with this or not, I cloned 'em all out :^.

The finished result looked a lot worse than when I started; lumpy kinda' background and much softer edges of the Osprey itself, hence, I decided to post the photo how I original processed it and thought I'd wait and see what you might say ;^)

Comments

12 comments
Comment posted by Steve Canuel on April 21, 2011 at 10:53 PM
Detail looks good and I like the exposed side of the body and the left wing reaching for the lower right corner. The visual difference in size between the two wings makes it look a bit unbalanced at first glance but I'm not sure if I'd prefer to see the standard diagonal wing comp. Have to think about it for awhile :wink:
Registered on September 12, 2010, 53 Posts, 660 Comments
Comment posted by Richard Ditch on April 21, 2011 at 11:33 PM
Good exposure; nice details. The underside of the left wing is so nice I didn't notice the position of the right wing at first. It might not be ideal but it is definitely acceptable IMO.

The artifacts you describe are jpeg compression, and they show up her because you've compressed this a lot more than you needed to do. The large image is only 112KB - a far cry from the 500KB maximum allowed at NPN. Jpeg compression works by finding clusters of pixels that have the similar RGB values and substituting a single value for all of them so that each pixel does not need to be recored as a unique RGB entry in a table. The more compression you ask for the less similar the cluster needs to be and the algorithm ends up creating larger blocks of uniform RGB where before there was a smooth gradation.

Using a threshold layer is only a means to reveal this to you and should not be used to try to fix the field by excessive cloning - instead back up in yuor work flow and fix the step that led to the problems detected ( a hallow almost always means you made too much of a tonal adjustment with shadow/highlight or levels or curves; jagged edges along sharp transitions and blockiness in what should be smooth skies is the result of too much compression in making the jpeg file).
Registered on November 1, 2003, 1031 Posts, 12705 Comments
Comment posted by Robert Holguin on April 22, 2011 at 12:09 AM
WOW!!!! Excellent pic. Amazing flight pose, great eye contact, exposed extremely well, and sharp. Well done.
Registered on January 25, 2011, 44 Posts, 294 Comments
Comment posted by Ashley Vincent on April 22, 2011 at 5:59 AM
Many thanks for taking the time to view and leave comments Steve, Richard and Robert :^)

Richard: First and foremost, thanks for going through all this again for me; I think a combination of explanations I've received so far is finally gelling in my mind and making some sense - LOL ;^)

As it happens, reading what you wrote here helped me figure out one main thing that had been puzzling me, and that was why I never seemed to be having any compression issues with most of the other images I'd posted up previously. Well, I just remembered that the bulk of the JPEG images I originally uploaded to my Flickr account were at least 500kb in size, but when I noticed that Flickr has a monthly limit (for free account holders) on total size, I decided to limit the size of all my JPEGs to 300kb (some even came out around 250kb!), seeing as there didn't seem to be too much difference between the two sizes on my screen, plus this had the added benefit of cutting down of the amount of time I had to wait for each batch to upload; the speed of my internet at home is pretty slow.

I think this is one problem that is in fact much more easily resolved than I dared hope it might be; simply by me uploading JPEGs at 500kb in size same as I used in the beginning ;^)

Please don't feel you've wasted your time with me on all this though Richard, as I really feel I've learned a lot about a number of things I didn't really have a clue about before, so major thanks once again :^)

Also great to know I don't need to waste an hour and a half cloning every image that appears to have a halo in it - LOL ;^)

All the best :^)
Registered on March 1, 2011, 154 Posts, 2083 Comments
Comment posted by Alan Murphy on April 22, 2011 at 8:22 AM
Nice flight shot. I would give up the strong black border and make the image bigger so we can see the detail.
Registered on December 3, 2003, 192 Posts, 739 Comments
Comment posted by Rob Drummond on April 22, 2011 at 8:45 AM
Stunning detail and eye contact Ashley - well done

cheers
Rob
Registered on November 8, 2003, 617 Posts, 8267 Comments
Comment posted by Ron Huff on April 22, 2011 at 10:58 AM
Really nice shot Ashley. I hope that soon I will have shots like this. I see that you shot this HH and aperture priority. I like the idea of shooting at ISO 200 - is this what you use most of the time on bright days? See that you got 1/2000's but only a F/4,
but you have a very sharp image. How do you set up the camera for focusing- I am trying different ways and would really like to know what you do. Again, awesome image.
Ron Huff
Registered on August 31, 2010, 69 Posts, 440 Comments
Comment posted by Wayne Willison on April 22, 2011 at 2:53 PM
Ashley, a strong image here. Good shadow detail in what appears to be harsh light. I like the pose, not everything has to always be balanced in terms of line and form, imo.
Registered on April 10, 2009, 292 Posts, 3967 Comments
Comment posted by Jim Hackley on April 22, 2011 at 3:03 PM
The eye contact and the wing display really makes the shot for me. Good placement within the frame and I like the tips Rich D. gave you, nice job in getting this from a boat, way to go.
Registered on September 17, 2009, 302 Posts, 5535 Comments
Comment posted by Ashley Vincent on April 23, 2011 at 2:09 AM
Many thanks for sharing your time and thoughts Alan, Rob, Ron, Wayne, and Jim :^)

Ron: Having good equipment and wonderful subjects is always a bonus, but nothing can replace the practical benefits of constant practice ;^)

In answer to your questions, I would usually only drop the ISO to 200 in a situation exactly like this, where I appear to have time targeting a large circling BIF set against a bright sky, as I'm pretty sure that on aperture priority the ambient light will be more than sufficient to provide me with a high shutter speed even with relatively low ISOs.

However, more often than not I'll keep my ISO at 400 for BIF shots as, invariably I find at some point while tracking them they'll fly into an area where the background suddenly turns to tree tops or the like, creating a situation where the camera registers less light available and compensates by setting a slower shutter speed, which of course can result in a less than sharp images.

As to your question regarding how I set the camera up for focusing: When in comes to BIF shots, truth be told, I'm still experimenting with this myself ;^)

Generally speaking though, I find the best results I seem to get come from having the camera set to Spot AF (Auto Focus); not sure if you're using Canon or Nikon, but this is what Canon calls it, and it's specifically designed for pinpoint focusing. Though seeing as this only covers an extremely small area, of course the main challenge is in keeping the Spot on the eye (or areas close to it) of a BIF even when AI Servo (Canon's mode for keeping AF locked onto moving subjects when the focusing distance keeps changing) is being used, which of course works the best for birds in flight.

I read that some photographers prefer to use some form of Point or Zone Expansion (whereby a larger number of focus points through the viewfinder are selected), which increases the chances of at least some part of the subject being in focus while they track it in flight, and this is what I'm also currently experimenting with, particularly with small birds that suddenly shoot off from the perch they were on, but so far I've found that, even when I do get some part of the bird in pretty good focus, it's hardly ever the eye that come up perfectly sharp.

As suggested, this is something I'm still trying to figure out for myself, so if anyone else reading this thread has any experience or advice to share I'm sure both Ron and I would be very grateful :^)
Registered on March 1, 2011, 154 Posts, 2083 Comments
Comment posted by Mia McPherson on April 23, 2011 at 1:01 PM
AshleyI've been busy and have found some time today to comment. I do see the thin halo in a temp. threshold levels layer, most notable about level 170 on your larger version. You could try doing your resizing on this image using bilinear, mask the bird and pull the mask in one pixel and hopefully avoid the halo. Since you sharpen images slightly more for print (you've mentioned you want to print & sell) than web it might make the halo more noticeable in a print. Not trying to be the halo police but I figure we all want to show our images at the best quality we can, and halos are fairly easy to resolve. Rich D has given you some sound advice.

The pose is very nice here and I love seeing the yellow eye. Comp works well for my tastes.
Registered on June 25, 2007, 491 Posts, 12566 Comments
Comment posted by Ashley Vincent on April 23, 2011 at 10:21 PM
Thanks as always for your time and valued feedback Mia :^)

I've saved all the advice that's been offered to me (as I always do with any advice that's been shared!) regarding this issue of halos and how to prevent them from occurring while resizing etc. to file, as this is something I will definitely be revisiting again when I can make more time. Aside from current time restraints, the other reasons why I'm not jumping all over this right now are that, unless I'm completely wrong (in which case please advise me accordingly!), this issues of halos only really occurs with darker subjects set set against a large area of bright background, such as the sky, and seeing as it will probably be a while before I post up any other such shots this gives me a bit more time ;^)

Secondly, having printed this image up in both A4 and A3 size, neither I nor anyone else I've showed these to can see any evidence of a halo, so really I'm pretty much good-to-go on those :^)

Thanks again and hope you're enjoying your weekend :^)
Registered on March 1, 2011, 154 Posts, 2083 Comments