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Moon over Ice

by Rafael Rojas

Gallery: LandscapePosted March 17, 2009926 views24 comments
Another photo of the Lake Superior series. Even if all nature photographers know it, landscape is an incredibly dynamic thing. After a couple of weeks of being going to the very same spot every morning, i could check it out. Every morning the place was a complete different one. Parameters like quantity of snow, cloud cover, position of ice chunks, moon, wind pushing the ice, etc gave an almost never-ending range of different possibilities photographically speaking.

The morning this shot was made I had another image already in mind, where the moon was the star. I wanted to highligh the surrealistic character of this place, with those blocks of ice piled up, avoiding in the picture anything "real" that could give to the image any context (i.e, horizon). The only thing "recognisable" should be just the Moon, telling us that the place is real, even if it does not appear to be so. I love this contradiction, and in many of my pictures I always try to give this double sense: we know that it is a real place but it really looks as if it was on another planet.

Both the ice, the blue colors and the moon and its light are often associated with cold, and all this made a pretty consistent theme. The image was sidelit by a barely rosen sun on the horizon and slightly veiled by high clouds. This ligth gave some modelling to the blocks of ice but without excessive brightness.

Composition wise, the Moon is not exactly placed in the center, but close enough as it is the main element that I want to be visible from the first glance. "Flanking" the star with two vertical blocks of ice would also create a frame around it which would further highlight its presence. I set the white balance at a temperature of 5000K (daylight) so the camera did not "compensate" the blue ice reflected by ice, thus showing a cold and desolate landscape, monochromatic. I did not saturate the colours in postproduction.
The snow sprinkled on the ice was a bonus, giving depth and a three-dimensional look to the blocks of ice, besides breaking the blue monochromatism of the entire image. Finally, the sky. Without clouds the picture would have lost all its impact, "mood" and depth, resulting in a "cardboard-cut-out" kind of edge between the ice and the sky.
Greetings to all and good light to you! Rafael, Switzerland.
http://www.rafaelrojasphoto.com

Comments

24 comments
Comment posted by Stuart Williams on March 17, 2009 at 12:16 PM
well conceptualized and executed rafael. my own eye reacted to and i suppose there'll be further comments about the blues you've represented here. i'd vote for adjusting to bring them towards a, well, more believable colour (but take this comment regarding ice with a pinch of salt: i can speak of the sky for i have seen many skies; broken chunks of ice like this - this may be fabulous realism as far as ice is concerned - i can speak of sand and dust in deserts but have not really had too many intimate encouters with ice!!). most interestingly and in a number of ways, images like this challenge our viewing of the world. in that it is successful!
Registered on December 7, 2007, 247 Posts, 4792 Comments
Comment posted by Dan Baumbach on March 17, 2009 at 12:26 PM
Great work beautifully executed.

- Dan
Registered on November 1, 2003, 473 Posts, 7980 Comments
Comment posted by Floris van Breugel on March 17, 2009 at 12:31 PM
Most excellent image, very otherworldly, and as you say, the moon keeps it in reality - very nice point. I do find the blues to be a bit too strong, even if they may be real, it just seems a touch overpowering. Really love this image though, great job!
Registered on December 19, 2008, 306 Posts, 4840 Comments
Comment posted by Kevin Trinkner on March 17, 2009 at 12:44 PM
Lake superior really is an amazing place, I was up that way a few weeks back for my first experience shooting there. The blues in that ice truly are amazing, and I like the way you presented them. The moon confuses me just a bit being surrounded by those clouds, seems like it would be hidden with all that cloud cover?

Very nice image, captures the landscape in that area very well.
Registered on June 30, 2008, 203 Posts, 2641 Comments
Comment posted by scott lanz on March 17, 2009 at 1:03 PM
Great mood, beautiful image.
Registered on November 14, 2003, 840 Posts, 12902 Comments
Comment posted by Arthur Sevestre on March 17, 2009 at 1:31 PM
Love the concept of this image! You definitely succeeded in achieving what you set out for. Personally I would possibly try to at least get the snow to look a bit more natural. The blue ice looks great to me, but I would be really curious what would happen to the image if the blue cast would be (partially) removed from the snow. Furthermore I might be tempted to try what the effect of a bit more contrast would be.

However, somehow this, more than most others I think, is an image that can go many ways with postproduction and, let's not forget, without it too and it will appeal to different people in different ways. How I would treat it, therefore, is obviously not by default how you should treat it and it certainly works pretty darn well the way you present it!
Registered on November 1, 2003, 275 Posts, 888 Comments
Comment posted by Mel Ladewig on March 17, 2009 at 1:36 PM
Great work Rafael. Very well executed.
Registered on July 24, 2005, 114 Posts, 1205 Comments
Comment posted by Stan Rose on March 17, 2009 at 2:43 PM
I like this comp much more than the first, but the blues here are way too strong. The ice looks ok, but the sky looks not-of-this-earth. Id use a WB closer to 6500.
Registered on September 15, 2005, 836 Posts, 17099 Comments
Comment posted by Dietrich Gloger on March 17, 2009 at 3:27 PM
Amazing photograph! A landscape of ice and the moon adds so much here.
Registered on January 26, 2007, 360 Posts, 9876 Comments
Comment posted by Morris McClung on March 17, 2009 at 4:00 PM
Certainly makes me feel very cold. Well, done.
Registered on May 7, 2007, 670 Posts, 19650 Comments
Comment posted by Rick Lundh on March 17, 2009 at 4:05 PM
beautiful photo, even if the moon was pasted in front of the clouds.
Registered on April 28, 2004, 774 Posts, 4351 Comments
Comment posted by Stan Rose on March 17, 2009 at 4:42 PM
Good point, Rick. Was the moon physically "placed" in front of the clouds, Rafael? Either the clouds were thin enough that all the mares were visible despite the clouds, or it was cut-n-paste. If it was, a lot of folks might not mind, but i think you should disclose that info in your remarks.
Registered on September 15, 2005, 836 Posts, 17099 Comments
Comment posted by Tyson Fisher on March 17, 2009 at 4:44 PM
This is a powerful image Rafael! It's surreal, otherworldly and well composed. While I like the blues, i'm with the others on bringing the intensity down a bit.
Registered on September 17, 2008, 44 Posts, 623 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on March 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM
Rafael,

You've certainly accomplished your goal in creating an "other wordly" image. And for that, the strong blues work very well and the moon does indeed bring some reality back in.

There are a few things though that I would like to comment on. And certainly please take these just as they are, opinions. The first would be the difference in lightness of the two tall towers of ice. You didn't mention it, but it looks like a GND was used. I would try and balance that out. Secondly, the shadows along the bottom and especially in the LRC seem unnaturally light to me, even muddy. That may very well be part of your vision with this scene having a greatly reduced contrast. Lastly, the moon. The sky is full of clouds and I might expect the moon to be obscured somewhat by the clouds; to me it looks like the moon is in front of the clouds and therefore placed there? I may be off base on that, but just my observation.

I only mention those things because I think this image has the potential of being spectacular.

In the end, this is a unique and well crafted image.

Lon
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Joseph Rossbach on March 17, 2009 at 4:53 PM
Brilliant, I like the blues just the way they are. :toast:
Registered on November 25, 2005, 484 Posts, 1377 Comments
Comment posted by Steve Sieren on March 17, 2009 at 5:24 PM
Rafael,

Keep shooting shots like this and you'll have a line of photographers standing right behind you.

As long as the snow is white, the white balance does the rest and sets the mood. Awesome photograph.

:toast:
Registered on January 2, 2008, 360 Posts, 5321 Comments
Comment posted by fernando brito on March 17, 2009 at 7:37 PM
Fantastic image!! Despite the blues are a bit saturated, I really enjoy this!!
Great work
Fernando Brito
Registered on December 21, 2003, 124 Posts, 486 Comments
Comment posted by Marc Dilley on March 17, 2009 at 9:09 PM
Wow, this is really blue. I appreciate the creative process that produced this, but it's still too blue. Beyond that, it's a pretty original piece of work. Let's hear from Rafael about this issue with the Moon.
Registered on November 21, 2007, 57 Posts, 1494 Comments
Comment posted by Michael Anderson on March 17, 2009 at 10:07 PM
Wow,

This is simply fantastic!! I agree with the others about toning down the blue saturation a bit, but that is a very easy and minor correction and this is a big time winner!!!! I LOVE this image.
Registered on January 31, 2006, 228 Posts, 3072 Comments
Comment posted by Jimmy Gekas on March 17, 2009 at 11:20 PM
This is very, very nice! I love the blues... they're outstanding.
Registered on July 26, 2007, 244 Posts, 2807 Comments
Comment posted by Rafael Rojas on March 18, 2009 at 4:39 AM
Thank you all for the comments.
Concerning your points, I think i will increase the white balance to reduce the blue slightly, that idea was really in my mind too before posting it...
I forgot to mention i used a graduated filter, that is why the tip of the ice block to the right is slightly dark. I should have corrected that slightly.
The other really important thing is the Moon!!: It is not pasted!!! The only reason i went out that morning was trying to find the Moon. The clouds appear on the photo much thicker they were. Anyway, i have the same composition some 5 minutes later, and as the Moon sunk a little bit more the cloud veiled it way too much. Perhaps what is happening here is the "clarity" that has been boosted too much in Lightroom, and given the fact the Moon is very clear, it has got too contrasty...Good point anyway, your comments mean that i need to decrease slightly the contrast in the Moon, making it more veiled...
Pasting the Moon here would have ruined the whole idea of that day...which was chasing the Moon itself!
Thanks for the comments, i will surely put them to play ;-)

Rafael,
Registered on March 1, 2009, 56 Posts, 623 Comments
Comment posted by Lon Overacker on March 18, 2009 at 12:57 PM
Rafael,

Thank you for the updated information. I wasn't completely convinced the moon was placed, but was simply because the moon was in front of the clouds - or so it seems. But a bright moon can certainly shine thur thin clouds. So thanks for clearing that up for me.

Lon
Registered on November 24, 2006, 521 Posts, 19147 Comments
Comment posted by Catherine Reilly on March 24, 2009 at 2:31 PM
Whoa, this is startling, haunting and gorgeous. Many congrats on the EP.
Registered on August 16, 2006, 603 Posts, 9192 Comments
Comment posted by Doug Benner on March 26, 2009 at 8:37 AM
Really interesting composition. Congratulations.
Registered on December 8, 2003, 482 Posts, 1868 Comments